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Another Sable owner here and am smitten with the guitar. It is a heavy (dense) build but I've gotten used to it and since I play sitting down, not a problem. First "non wood" guitar that I've had that I just don't think about wood vs. non wood when I play. It's just a nice guitar. And it's built to a very high standard. The bottom end reminds me of my Martin 0000. Not a thin sounding guitar.
But ha - yes - the guitar does have a certain smell to it. It's gotten less offensive as I keep it out of the case all the time. But it's there.
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It comes with two saddles (low and medium) hand made for the actual guitar. Also comes standard with 13 gauge strings. Within the first hour, I changed the saddle from the medium to the low and put thomastik Infeld AC111's on it :-). I play fingerstyle and can say it's a pleasure to play and the volume is good for me. I'd guess with the 13's and the medium saddle it'll hold its own in any situation. My son is a more experienced player than me and when he was here for Fathers Day he really liked the McPherson; that said, he didn't mind playing my 000-28MD either :-).
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By the way, do retailers for McPherson discount off of MAP, or is that heavily discouraged? Same question about Rainsong (I'm also very strongly considering a model that is no longer made, the H-WS).
I appreciate the collective wisdom here!
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Discounts on McPherson carbon fiber guitars are hard to come by. They are selling well at their asking price. I think the price that they and Emerald are asking for their carbon fiber guitars are fair. I managed to purchase mine at a discount, but I think it was early in the pandemic and the retailer was looking to clear his inventory. Any discount you receive will likely come with a catch, like a “final sale” or lack of return policy. Since I stumbled on my Sable by playing one, being very impressed, but missing out on the chance to buy it, I knew I wouldn’t want to return it after ordering. So, that risk was very low for me.
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My frame of reference is using Martin dreadnoughts in jams, song circles, bluegrass ensembles, folk festivals, etc. The Sable is not as loud as my most powerful Authentic D-28 dreadnought, but I would venture to say it is as powerful as a Standard D-28. It should keep up fine. Moreover, leads and single note runs will ring louder then all but the most powerful Martins. Where it will top out is rhythm and strumming. A 15” wide /4.5” deep body can only, realistically, move so much air. Physics is physics. But, mine surprises me when I play it because of how efficiently it pumps out air. Lastly, the sound hole points more of the sound at you, so you will be able to hear yourself at the jam.
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McPherson at MF might only be the reward points, but at the moment that is moot as they have no Sables in stock. You would need to call MF during a sale as unlike AMS/zZounds/SameDayMusic, or Sweetwater, they won't negotiate between sales. LA Guitar Sales will also do something similar if you call and will also place a custom order too (minor deviations only like pickups and finishes RainSong already offers). I think a CO-WS with no pickup and at LA Guitar Sales usual good price is a better value than a old stock H-WS with the barn door.
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I've bought from Ted before. Great guy, always excellent advice; it's where my H-OM came from. I've been looking at the CO, but recall playing one at Guitar Hanger in CT (I think) and didn't care for the tone as much as my H series. I don't recall what it was about it, just that I wasn't inspired to keep playing it. Love the tone of my OM, and the side pickup doesn't bother me, so if I'm going RainSong, then I'm OK with old stock. Thanks for the detailed and excellent reply!
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I bought my sable off Reverb....I wasn't even ready to buy one yet but was watching a few on my Reverb watch list which were listed at MAP retail price...Funny thing is one of the retailers sent me a message from the sable I was watching on Reverb and made me an offer I couldn't pass up ….I didn't hesitate to buy at the price he offered.....Don't be afraid to call or message with an offer on Reverb as I was surprised on how much they came down from the MAP pricing...I was even more surprised to find out sellers on Reverb know you are watching their products and can send you offers.
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Congrats on the Sable. They are a very strange instrument because, reading the thread, I learned that these guitars sound BOTH thin and surprisingly full and wood-like. No other guitar can make that claim. Tony
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Here's where I'm at...and I think it takes the Sable out of the mix, lol, though I added my name to the Watch List for all of them that are available, just in case. There is a beautiful X30 available from the factory. I am asking if they can retrofit fretboard dots. It may be a silly question, but I don't know if their necks are easily removed and worked on, or if dots have to be done before the neck is totally finished. If they can do that, I'm in. Otherwise I will see what the lead time is for ordering one. I want the horsepower. After that, I think I'd be happy with the H-WS. My OM is pretty punchy, and I think the WS will be more so. The pricing on this is very fair. These are older models, I know I like the H series, so this wouldn't be a hardship.
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I can tell you that I have not experienced such wolf tones from my Sable and that I never play with a pick. What I don't yet know is whether my Sable would be capable of a loud wolf whistle if I played outside and the usual subjects of such a wolf whistle were to pass by. That would be embarrassing. Tony
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