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I didn't want to copy your whole comment but that's a fantastic perspective but one I struggle with. Not that I disagree, just that I've not been able to make it stick. I still struggle with many things but you've given me a nudge to keep trying to change my perspective, one more day. Thank you!
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And I've been having a very happy retirement for the past few years - missed my routine briefly but got over it completely. Now when i run into someone who still works where I had previously, and they start talking about some of the people and the power struggles and office politics, it gives me the willies and I'm really happy to be finished with that phase of my life. But one honest question, based on your last line of the previous post: When you were working and involved in your career, did you enjoy your vacations then? Because it sort of sounds like the role your job played in your life and your self-perception, it might have been hard to be away from it then as well? I may well be wrong, but I thought I'd ask... -Ray
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At one point I was talking to my older brother (by 12 years) who'd been at this getting old thing longer than I had. And he just talked about letting go of the stuff you can't do anymore (because you can't do anything about them) and just focus on enjoying what you CAN do now. And I realized I'd pretty much been doing that since I'd been in my late 20's, when I started realizing I couldn't jump quite as high on a basketball court and couldn't run flat out near as fast for a long pass in a pickup football game. I'd just started finding things I could to well and focussed on those. Photography and Guitar are the two things that really link my youth with my retirement, but I was way from both of them for almost 30 years when I didn't have time to focus on either. But I did them them then and I do them now. And get great pleasure and satisfaction from them. But it took an attitude adjustment to get to this point. -Ray
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With all due respect, and I'm really not trying to be harsh, but is the converse of that statement as true to others as it seems to be to you? Let's face it, being in a position of authority over others is an unbalanced relationship...
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I managed a couple of plants for an international company. I came up through the ranks and knew every aspect inside and out. Everyone, including, upper management wanted my thoughts and opinions on things. What I said carried weight. Two weeks into retirement you couldn't find a soul that cared what I thought. It's a fact of life and the world marches on. I was prepared to some extent as over the years I had watched many people, and some that were highly valued, leave the company. You'd hear a story or two about them and after two weeks you'd never hear their name again.
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Retiring after 20 years military last century, I continued along new career paths, working until 62. Of course I'm proud that I served, but that was a chapter in my life after which I turned the page and moved on. It didn't always feel like it, but today, from this perspective, it was a privilege.
In military, civilian, public or private sector, I've not experienced that authority on its own makes anyone "likeable." In fact, authority without a suitable background/temperament made more than a few players I knew into nasty, petty tyrants. On the other hand, taking responsibility seriously can certainly endow people with a sense of purpose and fulfillment. One could easily come to miss that in retirement. Once "having to work for a living" ends, it might take some creativity and energy to build purpose and structure into your new day/week/month/year. Think back. What did you sometimes (maybe always) wish you had time to do when you were putting in (+/-) 2080 hours/year at the job? Home? Travel? Maybe volunteer? Something with people? Charity? Critters? Hobbies? Fitness? Guitar? Guitar with others? I'm busier now than ever! Experiencing (extremely) limited success at finding compatible musical partners before the plague, I recently discovered a weekly open mic guitar circle on Zoom. Now, whenever I find spare moments between family, (endless) household projects and my newfound hobby welding (art), I ALWAYS have some woodshedding to do on guitar/vocals so I have something new to share every week. Last edited by tinnitus; 09-19-2020 at 11:43 PM. |
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As many have said, vacation is nothing like retirement. I'll have been retired nine years in December and I've never looked back.
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My wife and I retired July 2019. I was 60, she 62. Technically, I was "laid off" as my office was moving to Nashville. They offered to move me, but I was already considering retiring. It was actually beneficial, as I received extensive monetary considerations to stick around until the transition finalized.
Backing up a bit, the decision to retire early was spurred, in part, by numerous family and friends who passed away far too early (early 60s); my brother contracted esophageal cancer, 6 months later my brother-in-law seemed the model of health, dropped over due to an aneurism. My wife and I had been contributing to 401k at an accelerated rate, living well below our means, no debt etc. Our financial advisor agreed we could make it happen. We decided to enjoy life NOW. I'm sad to hear of those who struggle with no longer having the self-worth they got through their job. I never defined myself by my work; my work allowed me to do the things I consider important. So perhaps it is easier for me to transition to life away from employment. It's also a huge benefit that my wife and I love to be together, and are a team when it comes to financial decisions. When the pandemic hit, we decided to start working out in our basement. I'm incredibly impressed with her, as she was never the athletic type. She has lost 12 pounds (and me 18), and we're in better shape now than most people 20 years our junior.
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I have theory that I've used to guide my life. I divided it into three parts. The first was confusion and uncertainty. Just getting through my youth was hard. I had very little control over it. The second third I settled down, found a path, got married, had kids and spent that third of my life buying a house, raising a family, getting my kids set up for success so that they would move out eventually and not move back in. And I put a lot of time and energy climbing the ladder with my career. Now I'm retired in that third and final part of my life, my reward for playing the game.
When I was young there were all these things I wanted to be, but instead I ended up being what I was. After retiring from a long and somewhat successful career with a darn good retirement plan I can go out now and be whatever I want to be and not worry about a thing. I write novels, I go out busking and hang out with my friends, I stay up late and get up when I feel like it. Buy stuff I couldn't afford when I had to feed, clothe and shelter two kids. I drink too much and don't have to worry about getting up and going to work. I mean, this is what I wanted to do when I was younger, except I had to be a responsible adult instead. I love my life right now. This is not a vacation. Last edited by rllink; 09-30-2020 at 12:52 PM. |
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Congrats on retirement and getting into shape. Does all that Rolling Rock help or hinder your current situation???
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But I didn't grow up here, so perhaps I never acquired a taste for that swill.
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So, no "ahrn" either?
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