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1983 Martin D-41 - fair price?
https://reverb.com/item/38299407-198...stalled-pickup
It looks to be in quite good condition and comes with the original case.. It was re-fretted at the Martin factory and a pickup was put into it (also at the factory). Do those reduce (increase?) the value? It looks like the average prices of D41's on Reverb have been much lower than this: https://reverb.com/p/martin-d-41-1969-1992#price-guide Would appreciate any buyer tips as well as suggestions on the price. Last edited by slidestonowhere; 05-13-2021 at 02:30 PM. |
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There’s a like new one, 2017 Sunburst for less than that on Facebook. Plus no tax. That’s high priced for sure. Keep shopping.
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Thank you for your reply. I would prefer get a vintage one where the wood has set and where it has old life to it. And aren't the vintage ones typically worth more than the new ones?
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Vintage means different things to different people. The word is abused, IMO.
Plus, you don't know a guitar's condition until you or someone you trust can take a very close look, and assess. A "vintage" (let's say really old) instrument could be in very rough shape, which means a lot of repair work needed. People do sell/buy guitars that are in rough shape all the time but the price paid will reflect work that's needed to make it playable; or more playable as it were. And some (most?) people will always prefer a newer guitar. I don't think one can generalize across the population of potential guitar buyers there.
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Last edited by tuner440; 05-13-2021 at 04:30 PM. |
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I think buying 40-year-old guitars is like buying 40-year-old automobiles. There's any number of elements that aggregate as 'value'. And an amateur like me has no business being in that game, I'd wind up on the short end a whole lot of the time. I don't like to buy what I don't know.
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Thank you for the replies - very helpful. I've got a '66 Gibson J50 that I love that I bought from a reliable store. I like the feeling of an old guitar that's been played a bunch.
Having said that, how are the newer Martins? Are the parts and the craftsmanship anything like they used to be? If so, I would consider getting a more recent d-41. And agreed that the price for this D-41 seems high. |
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Does the fact that it's been refretted (by Martin) lower the value? And does the built-in pickup (also done by Martin) lower the value? |
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And to answer your other questions, I don't think a refret or PU installation decrease the value of the guitar. May actually increase it for some people who view the PU as a plus. |
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You may want to check out Maury's Music (an AGF sponsor). He has a new D-41 in stock and for sale for Price:$4,799.00. I've bought 2 Martins (including a D-41) from him and have been very happy with both purchases.
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Just doing a few comps on Reverb - while it's a little on the high side it's not terribly out of line with similar instruments and, as you said, you're looking at 40-year-old wood of a quality you're not going to find in a new D-41...
Seller's open to offers; I'd pitch $3K and tell him that you both know it needs a neck reset (if he's smart he's probably got about $2K tied up in it, so he still makes a profit on the deal), get the reset job done, hang onto it and keep it as clean as possible - if the comps are any indication, I think you're going to see prices of CFM III-era Martins begin to take off in the not-too-distant future...
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Seems high to me. I have a 1997 d41. Hand laid pearl, no reset ever done or needed. I'll be offering it here in the near future for a thousand less than this.
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How does this one look to you? It's a D-35, not a D-41, but looks like a pretty good deal.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184826098189?ul_noapp=true The seller wrote me this: "This Martin has all original parts and tubing mechanisms. I am the first and only owner so assured there has be no polish over the original hardtop as well! The only un original part is the fish an tuner that was installed! The tone is the real selling point on this guitar. Amazingly warm D-35 tone you can only get from an aged Martin. The guitar has no structural issues, just wear from 47 years of playing. The neck is slightly bowed and if you want lower action could use a reset (my local luthier quoted me $175 for this but I like my strings a little higher so never got it done). |
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What the heck are "tubing mechanisms"????
I would run far far away from that guitar/seller.
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