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I wish they were lighter, but I still like them.
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OK steelvibe, here it is. I have installed all the 3d printed tuning knobs now and just put the OF-660 on my dodgy old kitchen scales. The new weight is 4 ½ lb. So it has shed about a pound. It is definitely noticeable, and an added bonus is that I really like the look with the black tuning knobs and the highly visible carbon weave. But it's still too heavy for me for a bikepacking trip. Oh well, I'm glad I had this weight loss journey with my Journey anyway. Last edited by goog64; 10-20-2021 at 06:44 PM. |
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Nice to think about, but I'm content with it for my purposes--and sooo much work to lighten it! But I think you enjoyed the challenge most of all. |
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Not that it would lighten it all that much, but perhaps consider creating another sound port at the lower scooped area. Taylor has done this on some models with a scooped area. Their port is quite small...you could start small then increase as good tone allows. Maybe you could also do Ryan-esque flute soundholes along the lower upper bout. Just some thoughts.
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Yes I did enjoy the challenge. I think I took almost half a pound of bits off, and I guess the rest was removing the finish. So it might depend how thick the finish is on yours.
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And you could also try creating a version of the Ryan flute soundport. He does them on a bevel, but you could do them in the top of the lower bout. You could even cut some on the bottom of the lower bout. Heck, you can keep removing weight from the body by drilling more ports where it might make sense, while assessing tone/volume changes as you go and stop if/when you feel you’ve gone far enough. The biggest weight loss will probably come from losing body mass.
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Just to satisfy my curiosity, I'm going to contact Journey and ask them how much lighter their timber neck is. |
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Did you look into the Heart Sound CF tuners I’d mentioned? Beyond that, I’m not saying it would be wise or that you’d want to do it, but how integral is the truss rod to the neck stability especially given its removal functionality? Given the reason you want to go extreme on weight reduction, maybe the guitar would play fine without it? If you can remove it, maybe you could take it even further and have the core of the neck drilled out even more to create a hollow neck like Blackbird does. Not sure how this could be accomplished. All just crazy thoughts!
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You could reduce some of the headstock mass by removing some material. This would help with the balance.
I would lean towards drilled perforations (with say a 4-5mm bit) rather than using a larger drill. If you retain a rib at the top and edge of the headstock and then perforate with multiple holes in the central area that will help reduce mass.. You may wish to change the tuners before this though as you will want to know their footprint. I would also perforate rather than cutting bigger holes if you are considering cutting into the body. This will better retain the air pressure as it moves around the body. It will also ensure rigidity is better retained. |
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Thanks for your ideas guys. I have wondered about removing the truss rod. The neck is the heaviest part. But I don't know how to do it without taking the fingerboard off, and I don't want to do that.
As for lightening the headstock, that was my original plan, but Journey told me it is not solid. It is some kind of expanded foam covered by a shell of carbon fiber. Yes, I did look at those tuners Tom. I love the idea, but they are out of stock, and I'm now at the point where I don't think I will get this OF-660 down to, for example, Baby Taylor weight (~2lb 13oz). |
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I think this model needs a special name; the OF-660 Superleggera!
The only other idea I could suggest would be to perforate the fret board and fill it with a lighter material (carbon fibre rod inserts for example). If you can remove the truss rod you might be able to swap it for a carbon fibre rod? |
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I admire your effort to lighten your OF660 by a pound.
As a fellow cyclist I'm not sure it's worth chasing *yet another pound* of reduction to your heavy guitar. You can achieve a one pound reduction by carrying 1/2 litre less water. FYI, this week is offering 25% discount on B-stock OF660. It may be worth asking the weight of the lightest in stock and deciding whether to restart with a lighter sample? Cheers.
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I do have one more idea remaining though - since the neck is the heaviest part, I am currently looking for a light weight, short scale electric guitar neck to put on my OF-660. I will update this thread when I have succeeded, but it could be months away. |