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Old 01-20-2019, 01:10 AM
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Please to look up Paddy Burgin while you are in NZ...
Can’t say that the name rings a bell. Is this someone we both knew in our earlier hell-raising Anchorage days, or some great musician I should know about but don’t?


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Old 01-20-2019, 02:52 AM
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By the way, our ship is in “the Roaring Forties” latitude right now, coming around the southern end of New Zealand’s South Island. This is an area where the whaling ships used to encounter, shall we say, “challenging” atmospheric conditions. A huge wave came up and smacked the ship earlier today, and while we were at dinner the ship listed over to the port side and my wife’s dinner plate tried to slide into her lap.

But she’s got good reflexes, and managed to catch it just fine. But it’s moments like that that remind you that, no, you’re NOT in a hotel, you’re in a watercraft making its way across some windy latitudes in the South Pacific.


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Old 01-20-2019, 08:51 AM
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AGF member 'Guitars & gems' bought that same 358e with Tasmanian Blackwood back & sides.
Beautiful guitar.

She posted some great pictures in this thread https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...d.php?t=533690


Thanks Bruce... I didn’t notice that post and thread. Yes ... it is a beautiful wood combo.... (and I don’t want my Guild F512 to feel left out for a while... but this guitar has its own wonderful personality also.)
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Old 01-20-2019, 08:54 AM
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There was a Maton OM-sized guitar at McCann’s Music in Hobart that was all-Tasmanian blackwood, including a top made of the same wood. In years past I have also owned a late 90’s-vintage Larrivee L-03BW with blackwood back and sides with a spruce top, and a Blue Lion mountain dulcimer in the same wood combination.



Tasmanian/Australian blackwood is a member of the acaia family, as is koa. The two woods also look a lot alike, but the examples of Taz blackwood instruments that I’ve played haven’t been exact sound-alikes with koa. They seem to sound closer to rosewood than koa, in my fairly limited experience.



But it’s a visually dazzling tonewood, no question about that. The blackwood dulcimer I had made (which is now owned and played by my daughter) has the most extravagant figure in the grain of any instrument I’ve ever owned.



Anyway, I like Tasmanian blackwood as a tonewood, but caution against the assumption that it’ll sound just koa, because in my experience it doesn’t, not quite.





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Thanks Wade. I don’t know how much to attribute to the woods used... and the builders design... but I would agree with your assertion...and experience... that the Blackwood is definitely a beautiful wood and leans toward the rosewood tone.
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By the way, our ship is in “the Roaring Forties” latitude right now, coming around the southern end of New Zealand’s South Island. This is an area where the whaling ships used to encounter, shall we say, “challenging” atmospheric conditions. A huge wave came up and smacked the ship earlier today, and while we were at dinner the ship listed over to the port side and my wife’s dinner plate tried to slide into her lap.

But she’s got good reflexes, and managed to catch it just fine. But it’s moments like that that remind you that, no, you’re NOT in a hotel, you’re in a watercraft making its way across some windy latitudes in the South Pacific.


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Your experience inspired me to dig out a few plastic ships to play with in the bathtub this morning.

Happy voyage!
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Old 01-20-2019, 12:16 PM
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Your experience inspired me to dig out a few plastic ships to play with in the bathtub this morning.

Happy voyage!
I hope you remembered to say nautical things like: “Shiver me timbers!” and “Ahoy, matey!” while you were splashing around with them!


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Old 01-20-2019, 02:34 PM
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Can’t say that the name rings a bell. Is this someone we both knew in our earlier hell-raising Anchorage days, or some great musician I should know about but don’t?

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I am a bit surprised that you don't know the name, given your encyclopedic knowledge of small builders. Paddy Burgin is a guitar builder (and pretty good player, if the clips on youtube are any indication) He builds acoustic guitars, Irish Bouzoukis, Mandolins and Citterns, but is best known for the Weissenborns that David Lindley and Henry Kaiser plays. He is located somewhere round Wellington.

http://www.burginguitars.co.nz/

Did you see any of Tim Kill's instruments in Melbourne?

http://timkillcustom.com/

Laurie Williams is up north of Aukland somewhere...

http://www.guitars.co.nz/index.html

There are some other local NZ builders, but those are the one's that I would most like to see, from their reputation.
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Old 01-20-2019, 02:46 PM
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Interesting. No, I didn’t know of Mr. Burgin or any of the others, and the only time I’ve been able to slip away and visit any music stores was when we were in Hobart. There weren’t any hand built luthier guitars in any of those stores.

My wife and I already know that we want to come back for another trip, so I’ll just have to include some small shop luthier operation visits then.


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Sadly there is no one store in Australia that showcases Australian builders ... apart from Maton and Cole Clark factory built guitars.

However, there was an interesting album by Australian guitarist David Ross MacDonald called 'Southern Crossing' where he plays a different guitar from a different Australian luthier on each track.

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Interesting. No, I didn’t know of Mr. Burgin or any of the others, and the only time I’ve been able to slip away and visit any music stores was when we were in Hobart. There weren’t any hand built luthier guitars in any of those stores.

My wife and I already know that we want to come back for another trip, so I’ll just have to include some small shop luthier operation visits then.


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Not surprising. Cruise shop companies are very savvy about keeping tabs on their clients so that they don't spend any money anywhere but company-owned or connected facilities.

Look into renting a motorhome. If you think that you can stay on the correct side of the road...
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Sadly there is no one store in Australia that showcases Australian builders ... apart from Maton and Cole Clark factory built guitars.

However, there was an interesting album by Australian guitarist David Ross MacDonald called 'Southern Crossing' where he plays a different guitar from a different Australian luthier on each track.

Bruce you should try and see David Ross McDonald live. His CD Knuckle Brass and Bone is superb. I saw him open for Kelly Joe Phelps in Sydney years ago.

I used to own a Dubowski and my only Aussie guitar now is my Tim Kill Weissenborn made of Fijian Mahogany. I have a few Aussie made ukes though.
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Old 01-21-2019, 02:00 AM
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Bon Voyage Wade & it seems most of our people were good to you & your wife. We're coming into another heatwave here so NZ weather would surely be a little kinder.

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Okay, so a high gloss finish is an option, but evidently not requested all that much, or else there’d be a lot of them in the stores. Interesting.
The FL3 series come with a gloss finish standard, at least on the top AFAIK & gold coloured/plated Grovers (as opposed to chrome on the FL1 & FL2). Not sure if higher end Angels do too.

Bunya accounts for a large portion of the CC tops although my FL2 12 string actually has a Sitka top (Qld Maple back/sides/neck) which works well too, quite a unique tone.

Enjoy the rest of your trip. Cheers
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Old 01-21-2019, 03:41 AM
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Mick, everyone’s been lovely to us in both countries, so far, anyway. Today was our first day ashore in New Zealand - we got off the ship in Port Chalmers, walked a few yards (excuse me, “metres,”) then got directly on the train, which we rode into Dunedin and beyond. We rode up the escarpment for a few hours, then the train returned.

We were supposed to be underway tonight to be in Christchurch tomorrow, but the winds are so high it’s considered unsafe to travel, so we’re hanging out in port tonight and will have to skip Christchurch entirely. Which is unfortunate, but that’s ocean travel for you.

While we walking around downtown Dunedin I came across a music store near the Octogon, which is their central (8 sided) city square. Neglected to get the business name, I’m afraid. Most of what they had in stock was Yamahas and Ibanez guitars, with only a couple of Cole Clarks representing their higher end instruments.

What the owner told me is that a lot of the local players graduated from the Yamahas and Ibanez guitars directly to handbuilt guitars made for them by several local luthiers. Which I thought was pretty interesting.

Anyway, tomorrow we’ll be at sea all day instead of going ashore. I have to say that New Zealand is incredibly gorgeous, and the cooler weather is definitely welcome to Alaskans like us.


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Old 01-21-2019, 05:19 AM
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I have to say that New Zealand is incredibly gorgeous, and the cooler weather is definitely welcome to Alaskans like us.
As an Alaskan you may be interested to know all the rivers/estuaries & near shore open waters of that east coast are loaded with Quinnat or Chinook salmon. Probably introduced from your part of the world.

Spent an entire January nearly 30 yrs ago based around Dunedin with a Kiwi friend/workmate back visiting his family & we had some great days out fishing in his uncle's trailer boat catching some. All feeding on krill, delicious eating!!
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