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Very little red wine is actually sweet, i.e. contains a relatively high proportion of sugars. Low alcohol = high residual sugar (since most sugar gets converted to alcohol via yeast). Most red wines have relatively high alcohol. I'm struggling to think of a non-fortified (port is an obvious fortified choice) red wine that is sweet - amarone perhaps. Learn to tell the difference between a "fruity" wine (e.g a big fat Australian shiraz) and a genuinely sweet wine. Cheers, Steve |
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Dry red for me, even with chicken or pork.
Whites, to me. are battery acid and sweets are, well, too sweet. No roses or sparklies either, and an expensive bottle is a total waste of money on me.
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Be careful out there. Wine is a demanding and very expensive mistress. Like the OP, my wife and I got into wine in our early 30s. We're mid 60s now and we have spent well in excess of $150K during our love affair with the liquid gold. But no more. Now that we are retired (read much, much less income), we spend next to nothing on wine (and we're ok with that).
Anyway, California Cabs, French Pinot Noir, and Italian Amarones & Barolos as well as Canadian Ice Wine were my favs. Never cared for Malbec, Beaujolais, Chianti and 1/2 the whites. |
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The first lesson is to learn in fine wine appreciation, is how to hold the bottle!
"Right in the middle of the large diameter"---so it doesn't slip out of the brown bag! Fog |
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Careful: there's a fine line between connoisseur and alcoholic. Having tagged along with a troupe of cork sniffers for many years I feel like my brief stint as a drunken sailor was a pious existence in comparison.
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During our last trip a friend lent my wife a copy of "Cork Dorks." Both thoroughly enjoyed it and it's sitting on my wife's night stand, begging me to pick it up so that I can comprehend what's so d@mn funny. I thought it was just too much wine. Betty Ford, here we come! PS: I'm sad that the Healdsburg guitar show is no more. My wife says I'm addicted to guitars but she's a fun drunk and Napa isn't that far away.
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Same situation here, Mr Silly Moustache. I’ve now found dry, tannin heavy wines unsavory. Though I rarely drink after treatment, I found the wines described as “More fruit forward” to better suit my palette- think a Rhône wine or ,even better, a Ripassa. Of course, the older Tawny Ports might do the trick. All my best, Tom |
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Wow, thanks for the responses guys. My plan at the moment is to just keep buying and trying one bottle of red wine per weekly grocery run. I have yet to find one that I am crazy about (other than the $40 bottle of Prisoner), but I'm hopefully I can find something wonderful for under $20 lol.
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The only change above would be to start with older wine and move to younger wines b/c the younger wines can overpower your taste of the older vintages. At an Older Vintages event in Napa, as well as any vintage tastings, they always start light to dark and/or older to younger. As far as learning, you're on the right path. Try different wines and see what pairs well with you and/or certain foods (like trying new guitar strings). Also, pay attention to the region that the wine is made and perhaps look for similar wines. For example, your Prisoner wine comes from St. Helena, CA, and there are many great wineries from the St. Helena / Rutherford areas (it's one of my favorite regions, and I've belonged to at least a dozen wineries there). Good luck and happy tasting. Cheers!
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...I'll take a nice fat Napa or Paso Robles Cab over anything else....love the big buttery Sonoma Chards.....our Pinot Noirs here in Oregon are quite quaffable...some great stuff coming out of Washingtons Columbia River basin......Italian Nebbiolos are my favorite imports...for domestic bubbles I love Argyle produced here in Oregon....give me the imported Roederer for special occasions....and no not all vineyards are treated with chemical fertilizers and pesticides although that is the industry standard...
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I never liked wine until we moved to Sonoma County years ago. Then wine tasting trips were a common weekend activity, especially when friends were visiting. We eventually learned to enjoy wines that would have tasted like vinegar at first, as the palate gets educated. And we found the small local wineries where you could get decent wines for $10 a bottle, or less. I don't drink at all anymore, but that is driven more by conflicts with my meds than anything else.
Kinda makes GAS and multiple guitars pale by comparison. An educated palate (much like a golden ear) is an expensive thing. |
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We're big wine drinkers in my house. And always on the quest for a great under $10 bottle...I don't consider myself super knowledgable, but I have tried a lot of wine, and I keep track of what I enjoy.
I highly reccomend downloading the Vivino app. It's a great way not only to get reviews on wine right as you're in the store, but it also helps you keep track of what you've tried (and liked or not) Currently, here's a few easy to find and inexpensive bottles we've really liked. La Vielle Firme (super inexpensive french red, great with dinner or just sipping. Rather light, maybe not for like a big steak dinner, but holds up to pretty much anything else) Louis Jadot Beajoulais (another lightish but dry French red) "Josh" Cabernet Sauvignon ( I think our favorite inexpensive cab) "Josh" also makes a great Rose. All Rose's are NOT WHITE ZINFANDEL!!! "Butter" Chardonnay (A good white for those who don't think they like whites) Wente "Morning Fog" Chardonnay (another great inexpensive Chard) And if you're looking for a NOT cheap special bottle, The Brunello de Montalcno (2004) is a wonderful Tuscan red that just...it's just perfect. And it's still not ridiculously expensive ($50-$60) |
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Oh my, thank you SO much for that! I can't tell you how many times I've spent 20 minutes just standing and trying to gather info on my phone. Life saver content above!
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I had a very productive weekend in my wine search lol.
I tried a bottle of Buck Shack Red, and it was pretty good. I did happen to get a couple bottle of Murphy-Goode Pino Noir and I really enjoyed it! I may have found my go-to cheap wine. I still want to try Apothic Red because I have a lot of people telling me it is great for $9, and isn't that the goal? To find the cheapest wine you like? |
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My daughter and son in law actually got my wife and I into table wine.
They experiment a lot but almost always in Red Dont know if you like a Cabernet Sauvignon as it is a dry but I think the fruitiness of some Cabs leaves a somewhat sweeter impression on the palate . My wife and I now are fans of Original Dark Horse- Cab, as our go to table fare (for just that reason, dry but does not not bite ) . Give it a try as it is commonly sub $10
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