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As for $100 power cables and $1000 audio cables, well you know what PT Barnum said More to the OP's question, here's a pretty good article on the history and proper use of Standby switches. https://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare...Standby-Switch |
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With the "standby engaged." That's like that dopey British-console thing with Mute switches -- when they're lit up they're On and the sound is Off.
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"STANDBY - Mutes the amp's output and preserves your valves. Use STANDBY when changing guitars, changing the MODE switch, selecting a new IMPEDENCE or taking a break." This is basically saying the standby switch is a mute switch. I suspect the manual writer was following common wisdom, but perhaps there is something different about the Bugera design that makes this good advice? I doubt it, but I have neither the knowledge nor information to know one way or the other. Any thoughts on this?
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Next topic: directional instrument cables? [emoji23]
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I warm up all my tube amps for a minimum of 10 minutes before a gig (longer if load-in/setup time permits), 15-20 minutes before home practice - always did from day one...
Still have the top-panel/no 'verb/no standby switch Ampeg Rocket I bought brand-new in 1964 - still has all its original Ampeg-branded tubes which show no signs of quitting, original caps are still good (all confirmed by Ampeg guru Dennis Kager before his passing - at which time he also informed me that it was one of the very first amps he worked on, when he signed on at the Linden plant)... Knew a guy back in the '70s (pro sound engineer for the classical division of a major record label) who used to warm up his all-tube McIntosh home system for a full 30 minutes before doing any critical listening - we're talking master tapes and pre-release test pressings here - and I've heard tell of similarly-conscientious audiophiles who are still running the OEM 1950's tubes in their equipment... IME the longer the warmup period the better - easy on the gear, easy on the ear...
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Here is the excerpt I was referring too , from Fenders web site "Therein lies the real utility of the standby switch. It allows the amp to be turned on but keeps full voltage from reaching its power tubes until they’ve had sufficient time to warm up, thus protecting them and prolonging their life. You’ll notice that the switch itself usually isn’t labeled “on/off", but rather “on/standby". When you first turn your amp on, you want the switch to be in the “standby” position, in which no sound will be produced while the tubes warm up. Then, anywhere from 15 seconds to a few minutes after powering up, flip the standby switch to the “on” position, and you’re ready to rock at whatever volume you like."
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http://www.valvewizard.co.uk/standby.html
Short answer is tube amps don't even need standby switches, other than maybe as a mute between sets or when changing guitars. They are pretty much the only consumer level tube gear from that era with them; TVs and radios didn't have them, and improperly implementing them can cause harm to rectifier tubes. Switch on, plug in, and play when you get sound.
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I think that's the definitive answer!
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who's got the popcorn?
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Some amps have "slow start up" rectifiers,like a 5Y3 which is used in Champs.No need for a standby in these amps.The standby at start up is used to keep DC voltage off the plates of the tubes until the filaments or heaters are up to full voltage,only takes less than a minute.Dont over think it,turn on the power switch and wait a moment.
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It really doesn't matter.
Back in the old jukebox days there was a relay coil in series with the output tube cathodes. When you dropped in your nickel and made your selection the tube filaments were hit with line voltage as soon as the output tubes conducted the relay pulled in and applied the proper filament voltage. Warm up time was greatly reduced, Sound was there when the needle hit the record.
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