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First - humidity control. I am a humidity fanatic. My certified master calibration lab engineers run an internal weather station network of hygrometers so I have access to all kinds of humidity info and am surrounded by humidity awareness and expertise. Many people keep their guitars in a case and humidify the case. I even do this on an emergency basis. I am intimately familiar - I even posted incase humidifier design ideas. A room is full of dry air but the case is properly humidified. When you pull the guitar out of the case, you exchange all the air inside the case with dry air, so the case's air has to be re-humidified itself. You cannot monitor or watch the humidifier or the guitar inside the case without opening the case, which dries the air inside the case. If the guitar was in a humidified room, you would not have to compromise the humidity to check the humidity. Second - case bites My guitars are in a closed room safe from kids and pets and all traffic. So there is no movement or motion near a hanging guitar except when my hand is on it to get it or return it. I've personally been the victim of case bites. I've read numerous similar stories on AGF. This is where the case lid falls while moving a guitar in our out of the case (jostling the case causes the lid to close). The metal clasp acts like a mini guillotine and bites into the guitar. Like I said this is not imaginary - it seems pretty common to me. Third - stepon dangers Cases on the floor can tip over, fall over and get tripped on and stepped on. This is a nuisance because cases take up so much room. I've tripped and accidentally stepped on a case (fortunately no damage). The second and third are multiplied because of all the times you have to move a guitar in and out of a case. Again, I believe the only answer is that everyone's own answer is specific to their situation. I don't like when people unequivocally mandate that the "best" way has to be their way. All of the "safety" arguments seem to revolve around either 1) physical damage to the guitar because it is exposed or 2) dropping onto the floor. If you have no motion, movement, traffic, people or pets, then there is probably no danger. If you keep a guitar in a case, it is away from that. What if you keep it in a humidified guitar cabinet? What about a guitar closet? What about a locked guitar room? What about a locked room? What about a locked house? So, in my mind, the strongest argument against hangers is the falling argument. And that is a valid argument and because the guitars are up in the air they seem to be endangered. But the likelihood of falling is pretty tiny so for me (and only me) the benefits outweigh the risks.
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Whatever benefit there is to a humidified room will exist regardless of whether the guitars are on the wall or in the case "Case bites" are a function of not paying attention to lid when placing or removing the guitar NOT a function of being in the case And are basically no different than the potential for "wall bangs" A dedicated "safe room" from pets and kids is the same for being on the wall or in the case Cases in a rack, or leaning against a wall, or in a closet are not likely to be stepped on. If you walk close enough to wall to brush against a case leaning on a wall you are getting close enough to brush a hanging guitar. You do not have to move a guitar in and out of case, any more often than you have to remove and replace it on a wall . Both situations have the potential for inadvertent accidental damage Your perception of safer on wall is highly subjective As is you anecdotal evidence I have seen a customer in a guitar shop trip (with no obstacle on the floor) and crash into wall of guitars severely damaging 5 or 6
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I agree completely.
I only suggest that my preference is only best for me. My dialogue was meant to just illustrate an idea that went beyond guitar storage. I was trying to suggest that everyone's own preference is what is best for them. But my point was missed and folks dug their heels in even harder to argue that everyone with a different preference is a wrongful human being.
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This is really pretty amusing. 9 pages on a thread posted as a “WARNING”, and we don’t even get to see a picture of the broken wall bracket or a brand name of that wall bracket or much of anything else except people’s opinions of how you should or shouldn’t store your guitars. What say we get back on topic and hear and see a little more about that bracket? Maybe like a photo of exactly what broke?
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Definitely better on the wall than in my Schrödinger's case, where the guitar is always in a state of being broken and not broken until I open the lid.
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I never considered this!!! Plus, by observation, you are also affecting the measurement. :/
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Perhaps but then question is, when on the wall is it as a particle, or a wave ?
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I knew this would be fun. If you live in a house with “no motion, movement, traffic, people or pets” that is one unusual house. And since you probably misspoke or I misunderstood, there is movement, motion and people, hanging guitars on a wall is far more risky than placing them in a case. In 40 yrs. I’m yet to drop the case latch on it, or trip over the case. If I tripped over my Ameritage case, the only thing hurt would be me. You’ve rationalized your preference, and that’s as valid as mine, but to say guitars hung on a wall are safer than in a case is simply incorrect. Guitar stores don’t hang them up because it’s safer, they hang them up to sell them. They get beat up because they’re hanging there and if they were in the case, they’d be “as new”. But because they wouldn’t be purchased they’re hung on the wall and placed at risk. I’m not the guitar police and anyone can do anything they wish with their guitars. There is no statute I’m aware of and no one here is trying to dictate behavior. One takes an added risk by having a guitar out of it’s case on a stand, or on the wall. They do it for a perceived pay-off. Most just admit that and don’t go further.
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Did the OP ever disclose the brand of hangar? Too many comments to wade through....
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