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Old 01-06-2020, 11:11 AM
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I'm not much of a banjo player myself, but these solutions look so cool.
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I'm not much of a banjo player myself, but these solutions look so cool.
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Very nice designs and applications. Really like the look of that 3+2 slothead.

Scott Vestal has been building a limited number of Stealth tunneled 5th strings for quite some time and he is also a player. I believe the first time I saw one of these banjos was in a video of him with the Sam Bush band,.
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I made that mistake once. Why the difference do you suppose
Probably the best explanation is in Armstrong's "Why Stewart marked the 10th fret":

http://web.archive.org/web/201704030..._Markings.html
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Probably the best explanation is in Armstrong's "Why Stewart marked the 10th fret":

http://web.archive.org/web/201704030..._Markings.html
So if guitars strings were separated by thirds a marker at the 10th fret instead of the 9th fret would make better sense?
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Old 01-07-2020, 09:41 AM
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Very nice designs and applications. Really like the look of that 3+2 slothead.

Scott Vestal has been building a limited number of Stealth tunneled 5th strings for quite some time and he is also a player. I believe the first time I saw one of these banjos was in a video of him with the Sam Bush band,.
Thanks Mark. I appreciate your comments. I didn’t realize that the stealth string was as common as it seems to be.
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So if guitars strings were separated by thirds a marker at the 10th fret instead of the 9th fret would make better sense?
Perhaps... if early makers followed Samuel Swaim Stewart's reasoning. S.S.S. published a lot of his banjo building thoughts, and he was never without strong opinion.

As a comment on the "stealth" 5th string, it has a long history and was a standard feature of Zither banjos made in Europe. Windsor was the brand that set the standard as far as zither banjos go, and they produced hoards of them up until production being interrupted by bombing during WW2.

Banjo design has seen just about every possible "improvement" in design over the last century and a half, and several of the more recent innovations are re-hashed versions of design features that have come and gone.
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The tunneled 5th string was a common feature of zither banjos. Many were made in England (and to a lesser extent, the US) around the turn of the century. I had one once, but it sounded like a regular banjo only a bit quieter.

Oddly, it had 3 tuners on each side. One was not used - I got to take my choice on which one. I learned that this also was not uncommon.
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Interesting history guys. Looks like Banjos were, and I guess to an extent still are, one of the free form instruments without traditionalist to criticize innovation.
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Interesting history guys. Looks like Banjos were, and I guess to an extent still are, one of the free form instruments without traditionalist to criticize innovation.
Although there are a few of us banjo builders who challenge tradition, the banjo community on the whole is actually quite set in its ways. Among the two major factions of banjodom, resonator and open back 5 strings, most players are very firmly set to tell you that whatever they play is the final word. The open back community is a bit more willing to go outside of conventional thought, but the 5 string resonator players are VERY much traditionalists. Earl Scruggs is so revered among players that many turn up their noses at anything other than a Gibson "like Earl played".

Sorry to bring that to light in this particular topic, but its good for anyone considering banjo construction as a paid hobby to realize how firmly entrenched these two factions are.
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This is a replacement neck and the finish needs to match the pot. I am proud of how close we came to matching the color of the original neck. We rubbed on some black analine dye to emphasize the grain and then steel wooled off the excess and went back with red.
The top neck in this shot is the original neck and the bottom neck is our creation

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..right there.. just that your version has a multi piece construction.. it looks newer but identical in every other aspect. I bet noone could tell a difference if they don’t know about a change !
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..right there.. just that your version has a multi piece construction.. it looks newer but identical in every other aspect. I bet noone could tell a difference if they don’t know about a change !
Cool.
Thanks. I felt really good about the match. I have done finish tints before but never raw wood tinting. That technique really emphasizes the grain more than covering with an air brushed color over a base coat.
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I like it and I'll bet your client will too!
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I love the taper on the neck. You seem to do angles with the angels. And a great father/son project.
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