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If the sole purpose of the bridge plate was to protect the top from string ends, little more than a hard ring would be required around each hole. |
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I definitely don't want this to happen. What do you think about this bridge plate ?
The 00-21 is somewhat smaller than the 000, will it be still safe to use single braces? Cheers, Fran |
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Yes bridge plates and need for them, can be an interesting discussion, I am off the camp, you only need them large enough to prevent string ball damage to the underside of the top.
Large bridge plates can be utilised in the building process to reduce bridge rotation if that’s what you so desire. However, bridge rotation is a necessary evil, too much and the bridge will pull of the top or distort the top, too little and the instrument sounds dead and lifeless. When I personally experiment with new bracing ideas, I don’t close the box but have a temporary back installed, the tailblock and neck block are connected with a single steel bar during this process, I then string up and measure bridge rotation, if happy I remove internal bar and close the box, if unhappy I continue modifying braces and measure rotation again. I have seen many guitars with top mount strings that have no bridgeplates at all and these play extremely well. Steve
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I'd probably make it a little smaller, closer to 2".
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Thank you both!!
I think I'd better be on the safe side in my first build, so I will go for the more traditional arrangement , as per Charles suggestions. Glad to hear this is an area of possible experimentation in successive builds, though. Regarding the side and bottom braces, I think I'll go double, shorter braces. Cheers!! Fran |
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The woodgrain is gorgeous! Great looking build all around.
Best of luck!
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Cheers! Cant wait to strum it!!
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What you do not want is for the bridge plate top and bottom edge to line up with the bridge edges, this would create a stress riser.
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Understood, thanks Fred.
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Hi guys,
Been a while... I'm about to have my first son, and have been kinda busy lately. Anyway, I got some time to work on the guitar, and would like to show you my progress and drop a couple of questions Unfortunately, a piece of furniture fell upon the guitar back and cracked it in two parts. Had to choose another rosewood back that would match the sides I already have and start over again. I took the oportunity to change the backstrip design to match the sides and top binding. Now, I have both back and top braced, still have to clean them a little from glue marks and carve the top x brace. I sanded the upper transverse brace flat, hoping that fingerboard installation will be easier that way. Is that a usual practice? Or is it just bad? Hope it's not too bad... read it somewhere and thought it would be a good idea. What do you think about this bracing pattern? Would you modify it somehow? A quick picture of my bracing process... I really need a proper workshop I'm about to round the soundhole's edge next, how do you guys do it? Thank you!! Merry Christmas to all, Fran |
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Doing good - bracing looks fine. Have you considered a popsicle brace. Great idea for a go-bar deck for those that only build a couple a year. Would work great under a workbench and take up no shop space.
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My experience on my own instruments has taught me to scallop the upper transverse brace starting closer to the sides, removing less wood. It's an important structural brace. Quote:
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A flat UTB can work in the right circumstances, if it works with your overall geometry. Without knowing what that is, we can't know whether a flat UTB is helpful or not. I personally don't know the circumstances in which a flat UTB is correct as I use a radiused one in my system...
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Thank you guys!
Will follow your suggestions Charles, Would leaving finger braces like this cause stability problems? Quote:
Glad you liked my gobar deck, I try to cut expenses as much as possible in jigs etc, being my first guitar build. Quote:
Do some of you sand flat the UTB? Cheers, Fran |
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Leaving the finger braces shorter probably is fine
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