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Wonder why we cant edit titles?
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Because you're not a moderator.
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But I wrote it? not that it's a big deal but other forums I am with let me edit my titles if I need to. Usually it is my spelling. Case in point I started a thread in the Electrify section and my title really is poor, would change it but too late.
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Just to add to a point made earlier - no, it is not like I prefer cranked engines to starters. More like a Formica table can be easier to maintain, clean, more "dependable", etc.... but I'll still get a wood table for a lot of reasons - feel, look, aesthetics, etc. I don't need my guitar to look like it belongs on top of a 1960's lunch counter or the side of a Lear jet.
Over the top, but come on... ruin me for wood? That's pretty much over the top at the outset.
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Not over the top at all really because for some people it is true. The experience of a carbon fiber guitar for them was superior to a wood one therefore, wood becomes a less desirable option. Certainly that is not everyone and it is I am sure a small minority of guitar players but the option is a valid one certainly not over the top and certainly not without logic. That is not to say that the majority will always prefer wood, that is fine, there are aesthetics to wood that are wonderful. But there seems to be a current with many wood players that only wood can make a superior guitar that would be the ultimate quest of a player. Just not true for some of us.
I guess I could go back to your Lear Jet analogy, no doubt there are many that prefer the wooden airplane. But I would not rule out the guys that like the Lear. There are some nice aesthetics there as well and some logic for its being kind of a cool and desirable form of transportation.
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There are many people who have tried various CF guitars, and don't like them for whatever reason. For many, it's because of tone. For some, it's because of aesthetics, or just tradition. Those are all valid. To completely dismiss carbon fiber guitars without ever having tried them is a little silly, but I think the number of people who have never tried one is shrinking.
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Definitely. I live ten miles from the Atlantic Ocean in a place that gets mid-90's for months at a time, and high humidity all the time. Wood guitars are beautiful, but I have no wish to own a guitar that has to spend most of it's life inside the case, to protect it from temperature and humidity. My Rainsongs don't even notice such things, and I can hang them on the wall in my living room without fear of destruction.
Also, while carbon fiber isn't indestructible, it sure is resilient. I've owned mine for years, and they still look brand new. Well, except for the dust I see when I play with glasses on....which is never......lol..... D.W.
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I never seriously think of carbon fiber guitars in a "win" - "lose" competition with wood.
Some like the sound of wood--some believe it's the "only" sound and standard for what a guitar can or should sound like. Any variation from this standard that has been personally internalized from earlier life experience is difficult or impossible for some players to accept with any satisfaction. For others, the ability to accept other standards of sound and quality is easier to do, and they find satisfaction more broadly. Some find that new standards for guitar materials and the sound they make even replace their old standard entirely. Winning or losing isn't the issue for me. Satisfaction with all aspects of the instrument and the music that it produces is the central idea. Players will not agree on the specifics but it doesn't matter if the focus is on the joy of playing music. Lose that joy and neither wood nor CF will make a player happy or satisfied. |
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I agree with ac as well. It's not a win or lose situation. I love the way my Rainsong sounds, plays, looks, etc as much as I love the way my wood guitars sound, play, look, etc. They are different. But I have to give an edge to the Rainsong, because of the fact that I can love it as much as my wood guitars without all of the (maybe unnecessary) concern related to high end wood guitars. That is the reason the Rainsong has stayed and gets played every week and my 810e, Martin Performer, and other really nice guitars have come and gone.
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I have yet to own a carbon fiber guitar but am reading this thread because I am very interested and trying to learn about them. I am curious about them mostly for travel and I'm sure CF guitar technology and design will continue to get better.
I do enjoy my wood guitars. I also enjoy slide rules, typewriters, film cameras, and quality darkroom enlargers. I still have some of those items around but never use them anymore despite a longing for the joy they once provided. I look forward to the adventure of selecting and playing a CF guitar. |
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I love my RainSong and prefer it for any recording over all other guitars. It does quite well also for amp work as well. For all other straight playing however, I prefer Mahogany first for sound, and tone, and the Rosewood second. Mahogany does quite well for recording as well, but Rosewood has too many overtones for recording in my view.
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As a new owner of a Rainsong HWS1000N2 I could very easily see how I could be just fine not playing wood again. And I love my Taylor 814, but my Rainsong is simply amazing!
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Then I tried a Rainsong HWS1000N2. And I was blown away! This week's email discount was not very good (15% off), otherwise I might have walked out the door with it. Didn't want to let go of it. Eventually I just sat there noodling and cradling it for some time while shooting the breeze with the sales guy. Up until now I've had only a casual interest in CF guitars. Now I have an itch that will have to be scratched. |