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Old 10-11-2020, 03:19 PM
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Can anyone shed light on this type of Brazilian cuts?
The examples are from a Bourgeois & Santa Cruz.

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https://www.themusicemporium.com/new...#&gid=1&pid=31
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Old 10-11-2020, 04:10 PM
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You’re talking about the color variation? Pretty common with Brazilian. I’m not sure what causes it.
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Both backs and sides appear to be accurately quarter sawn and high quality cuts. The light and dark color variation is not that uncommon in BRW.
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Old 10-12-2020, 05:59 AM
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Thanks guys. Any insight on the color differences?
Opinions on the long term stability of this type of Brazilian?
There is such a wide variety of BZ out there, I was just curious
about these examples.
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Thanks guys. Any insight on the color differences?
Opinions on the long term stability of this type of Brazilian?
There is such a wide variety of BZ out there, I was just curious
about these examples.
In general, color differences like that are heartwood/sapwood...



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Old 10-12-2020, 06:07 AM
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Long term stability is in your court. As long as you maintain an accurate 40-60% RH in the area that the guitar resides in the wood should be very stable for its existence.

BRW runs a wide and often veriegated color palette from brown, orange, green, tan, gold, red to black. God only knows why?

Hubcapsc, with all due respect, the sets he is linking us to do not display sapwood but rather a color verigation of the heartwood. BRW sapwood color is a fairly consistent light tan to cream color as are the dalbergias that I have seen.
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Old 10-12-2020, 06:33 AM
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It is ironic how we all see things differently. I for one look for that color variation in BRW and find it a positive attribute. From chocolate brown to almost black, some reds, and even in rare pieces a very obvious green. I love it, the more variation in color the better to me.

Thank being said, some folks like dark straight grain and want nothing else.
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I will say though, do you ever really see wood like that in older (pre 70 ban) sets?

Esp. older Martins, it's only the fairly boring straight grained brick red stuff, or occasionally sets with nice spider-webbing and wonderful color variation. I don't recall seeing these super wide dark bands.

I've noticed this effect is common with the wood Bourgeois uses, not so much SCGC. It surely is great QS wood no doubt, just wondering why it seems to used in newer builds... like maybe this is somehow reclaimed furniture grade stuff... or?
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Old 10-12-2020, 07:15 AM
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This is absolutely gorgeous Brazilian and looks very well quartered. This kind of color variation would by my top choice. I’ve seen some in Preston Thompson’s instruments also.
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I will say though, do you ever really see wood like that in older (pre 70 ban) sets?

Esp. older Martins, it's only the fairly boring straight grained brick red stuff, or occasionally sets with nice spider-webbing and wonderful color variation. I don't recall seeing these super wide dark bands.

I've noticed this effect is common with the wood Bourgeois uses, not so much SCGC. It surely is great QS wood no doubt, just wondering why it seems to used in newer builds... like maybe this is somehow reclaimed furniture grade stuff... or?
Not super dark bands like the examples shown, but nonetheless a very beautiful set IMHO from a Martin built in 1887!

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Default Repurposed BRW

BRW from a beam in a Brazilian farmhouse...



BRW comes in a staggering variety of forms--all amazing in their own way!
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Also reclaimed from an old Brazilian beam (and also a John Kinnaird like the previous one):
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I was told years ago (by someone who likely would know) that the black and orange coloring came from the wood sitting in water at some point.
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Old 10-12-2020, 02:25 PM
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I was told years ago (by someone who likely would know) that the black and orange coloring came from the wood sitting in water at some point.
That's interesting! So, maybe leached something out of the wood? FWIW, the guitar sounds dynamite.
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That's interesting! So, maybe leached something out of the wood? FWIW, the guitar sounds dynamite.
I'm surprised it sounds so good after you left it in water! What kind of water did you use? Distilled or mineral? How long did you soak? Can your process be monetized somehow? This is a whole new untapped branch of internet lore!
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