Ear Trumpet Labs/Schoeps Comparison - Page 2

ChuckS · #16 10-05-2020, 04:02 PM

Thanks for providing this comparison Doug. I think this sort of thing is helpful for some of us as ear training; learning to relate some sound characteristics to different types of mics and setup techniques. My preference is for the Schoeps; I like the clarity and detail. For some reason I've never been as drawn to mid-side for guitar compared to ORTF or spaced pair

lkingston · #17 10-09-2020, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug Young

I do actually find myself preferring the sound of the AT mic over either of the others in this particular test. I don't usually record in ORTF these days, and I generally prefer the Schoeps as wider spaced pairs.

I agree the AT stereo mic sounds fantastic! I get what you are saying about it just being for video, not for the studio, but from what I’m hearing, it would do very well in the studio.

Mr. Jelly · #18 10-09-2020, 05:32 PM

One time through has me voting for Ear Trumpet. It has an openness and clarity to it. The Schoeps had a lushness to it that's cool. Seriously I can't hear what you guys are talking about but that's me. I'll take your word for things.

lkingston · #19 10-09-2020, 06:14 PM

I found the AT4050ST for a decent price ($1000 - used six times) on eBay and ordered it. I am pretty excited about it. This will be mostly used for my guitar and vocals videos and like Doug, I am interested in as little clutter as possible in the video frame. I like the sound I heard in the test very much. I also like the flexibility with the 90 and 120 degree presets and the mid side variability. The Zoom H6 will work with a mid/side mic setup, and so will Ferrite Pro which I have been using to edit audio for my YouTube and Facebook videos.

TBman · #20 10-09-2020, 09:00 PM

I liked the AT mic the best on my first listen. I'll listen again later this weekend.

Doug Young · #21 10-12-2020, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by lkingston

I found the AT4050ST for a decent price ($1000 - used six times) on eBay and ordered it. I am pretty excited about it. This will be mostly used for my guitar and vocals videos and like Doug, I am interested in as little clutter as possible in the video frame. I like the sound I heard in the test very much. I also like the flexibility with the 90 and 120 degree presets and the mid side variability. The Zoom H6 will work with a mid/side mic setup, and so will Ferrite Pro which I have been using to edit audio for my YouTube and Facebook videos.

Let us know how you like it! You can hear/see the AT4050ST in any of my videos done in the past few years, other than the one I just did with the Ear Trumpet. I usually just leave it in the 120-setting, it's easier to balance with the little meters on the Zoom, where it's not as easy to balance MS as with my DAW setup. I could setup and and position in 90 or 120 and then switch to MS, but I just never remember to do that what with all the other stuff I'm trying to keep track of when shooting a video.

lkingston · #22 10-12-2020, 10:47 AM

I just got it this morning. So far in testing I like what I hear. I’ll be posting stuff soon I am sure.

lkingston · #23 10-12-2020, 07:29 PM

Here is my first recording with the AT4050ST. I used the 90 degree spread vertically in order to get direct aiming at both the guitar and vocal. I don’t know that doing this gives you much over just sharing a regular cardioid pattern aimed somewhere between the guitar and vocal. I think maybe it lets me get the mic a bit closer without losing clarity on one or the other, but I’m not sure.

Before recording this I recorded the same song with the figure 8 element pointed at the guitar and the cardioid element pointed at my mouth. At first I was really excited because that seemed to let me get a lot of the vocal off the guitar mic. Then I realized that it also added a lot of room ambience from the vocal to that track, so instead of having vocal and guitar tracks, I had vocal and guitar+vocal ambience tracks. I’ve never done guitar and vocals with two figure 8 mics, but my guess that it would add even more room ambience unless the room was well deadened. It was an unsuccessful but enlightening experience.

I’m very happy with the sound I got. I definitely like this mic!

https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/....php?p=6522301

Doug Young · #24 10-13-2020, 01:44 AM

Sounds very nice!