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Oh God Printer... Forgive me for laughing so hard If it was me I probably would have smashed it but I'm glad you shared the pic. We ALL can learn from ours and others mistakes.
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Nearly all fine woodworking starts with establishing and maintaining reference datum planes, edges or axes - often a "flat" (i.e. true) face and one edge that is "flat" and square to the face. If that face isn't flat and its edge isn't flat and square, any sort of joinery becomes difficult, as does accurate measurement of any kind. Without accurate measurement fit and finish are compromised and the quality of the work diminishes. Traditionally, apprentice woodworkers learned how to take rough-sawn boards and make them "four square" - by first creating a flat face, then a flat and square edge, then established the other two surfaces parallel to their respective first two. Those two initial references then became the basis for nearly all subsequent work. Establishing and maintaining reference surfaces/planes teaches a mindset and an orderly approach to subsequent work. That is especially true in guitar making, be it the reference of the face (gluing surface) of the neck or of the fingerboard or of the centreline of the guitar: a playable guitar is based upon creating accurate, specific geometry. During the building process, allowing these references to be lost or compromised makes the building much more difficult. Learning how to maintain these references and use them is part of the learning process. As you've learned from experience, one of the ways to lose these references is through poor sanding practices. During four decades of making guitars and related instruments, I've made just about every mistake that can be made - not usually all on the same instrument. At each step in the guitar making process there is the chance of making a mistake. Someone once said that a master craftsperson is not one who doesn't make mistakes, but is one who knows how to fix his or her mistakes. Often, experience is the best teacher on how to fix and avoid repeating mistakes. Depending upon the severity of my mistakes, some instruments were cut in half, some were never completed, some were completed and sold for the cost of my materials and others just sit in a case in a corner as substandard or awaiting repair or modification. Last edited by charles Tauber; 07-19-2021 at 07:33 AM. |
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I especially appreciate your points about one of the fundamentals of woodworking being establishing and maintaining reference planes. I did not know that was one of the most important parts of woodworking, although I kind of understand it now after my ordeal. This thread has been a lot better than I thought because all posts have been educational and some quite hilarious. |
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We'll get a much more manageable answer if we ask who HASN'T built a bad guitar...
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Start with the basics. If you want to end up with a piece of wood, say a guitar neck, for example, that is of uniform thickness that has a flat, smooth gluing surface for the fingerboard, how is that accomplished? If the bottom of the fingerboard isn't flat or smooth - it is twisted, has bumps and hollows in it - and the gluing surface of the neck is randomly also not flat or smooth - it is twisted in its own direction and has its own bumps and hollows in it - can those two pieces be glued together that 1) provide a strong glue joint, with no visible gaps and 2) provides a fingerboard playing surface that is "straight"? If not, how well is that guitar going to play? |
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That´s it!
Quoted by charles Tauber: "Someone once said that a master craftsperson is not one who doesn't make mistakes, but is one who knows how to fix his or her mistakes".
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Of the mistakes in life that I have done and regret, this one barely rates. And sharing these precious moments keeps me humble.
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To use a quote from the football manager /coach (soccer for some of you), Ralf Hasenhutel, we never lose, we win or we learn, or we cant really build a bad guitar, its just prototype ;-)
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Yes! You must build another!
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Not many people can say that.
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I’ve never built a bad guitar.
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You really should walk on the wild side sometimes.
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