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05-04-2018, 03:08 AM
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New opportunities from CITES: shipping guitars
Dear All,
Just got the reply from German CITES authority on the news, particularly, on to the Paragraph #15 b), here is the link to the NOTIFICATION TO THE PARTIES of No. 2017/078, Geneva, 21 December, 2017. https://www.cites.org/sites/default/...f-2017-078.pdf This is excerpt of the message from German CITES authority below .... "... If the export is non-commercial and the weight of the palisander or bubinga components is less than 10 kg, you do not need any CITES documents according to #15 b) CITES. This would be the case if a German or European friend of you would buy a instrument from Thomann for you and send it to you... " Any actual experiences ? Thanks to All for commenting and sharing! 
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05-04-2018, 06:18 AM
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That is pretty much identical to the response I got via email from the Canadian government department responsible for CITES last year. No CITES documentation required to import a guitar into Canada if the amount of East Indian Rosewood is less than 10 kg.
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05-04-2018, 08:38 AM
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Well, how are you going to make the “import” non-commercial?
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05-04-2018, 08:55 AM
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05-04-2018, 09:13 AM
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Non-commercial means it is for personal use and not for resale.
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05-04-2018, 09:40 AM
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That's because that is the law. No non-commercial restriction on less than 10k (22 lbs.) of Rosewood or restricted material. As we've discussed ... a lot... no acoustic guitar weighs 22 pounds therefore there it can not contain 22 pounds of restricted wood. However, when a manufacturer ships a guitar it is commercial. I believe they have to provide certificates for the origination of the wood. The transfer of the instruments is completely legal but some certification may be required.
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05-05-2018, 12:05 AM
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Certification and permits and the entire inspection process would be fine if no fees were applied .....
Re-export Permit costs $95, I guess.... Everything has fees, so $300 guitar order becomes 600 in the end ..... Sending guitar as a gift from person to person, friend to friend, this is what German CITES is suggesting!
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05-05-2018, 05:48 AM
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Here's a trial balloon. If you bought a guitar, paid for it, and the previous owner shipped it to you, wouldn't that be "non-commercial"? Since it was your guitar before it was shipped. You would just be moving it from one location to another, or rather, someone else would be doing that for you. It might excite less suspicion if the return address was not a dealer.
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