Why does Goodall still make jumbos?

[silverspear]

I shall attempt to comment on op's question..(:

I have a theory: that maybe jumbos are more heavily braced compared to the grand concert, because the target audience are strummers...therefore it might be less loud?

theory 2: that the fact that jumbos have a wider lower bout, means the top thickness will be thicker than that of the grand concert..therefore it takes more to drive the jumbo top for every Newton of force inflicted upon the strings.. (however I reckon that the volume ceiling will be higher on the jumbo, compared to the grand concert).

another vote from me about Goodall jumbos. I find his smaller guitars to be more impressive.. though by no means is the jumbo bad.

[cooper59]

more than you play guitars. every1 has diff taste.

[ikravchik]

Originally Posted by jim_pridx

Yeah, I don't know about the Hawaiian part, but I'll agree that judging one Goodall koa jumbo against all other Goodall jumbos is NOT a fair comparison. I'd also bet that if the OP tried out a jumbo built from rosewood and a nice spruce top that he'd be singing a different tune.

Read my initial post. I compared the GC to both a koa and a rosewood jumbo.

[ikravchik]

Originally Posted by semolinapilcher

Stop trolling. If you don't like jumbos, or larger Goodalls, then don't buy them.

Using your logic, don't like my thread don't post in it.

[ikravchik]

Originally Posted by silverspear

I shall attempt to comment on op's question..(:

I have a theory: that maybe jumbos are more heavily braced compared to the grand concert, because the target audience are strummers...therefore it might be less loud?

theory 2: that the fact that jumbos have a wider lower bout, means the top thickness will be thicker than that of the grand concert..therefore it takes more to drive the jumbo top for every Newton of force inflicted upon the strings.. (however I reckon that the volume ceiling will be higher on the jumbo, compared to the grand concert).

another vote from me about Goodall jumbos. I find his smaller guitars to be more impressive.. though by no means is the jumbo bad.

Wow, out of all the aggressive attacks on what's wrong with my post, you're one of the few people that actually took the time to consider that what I'm saying is actually true, instead of accusing me. Thanks.

[semolinapilcher]

Originally Posted by ikravchik

Using your logic, don't like my thread don't post in it.

Good point. Over n out.

[ukejon]

Originally Posted by ikravchik

Wow, out of all the aggressive attacks on what's wrong with my post, you're one of the few people that actually took the time to consider that what I'm saying is actually true, instead of accusing me. Thanks.

Well, what your saying may be your "truth" but it certainly is not mine. The one Goodall jumbo I played was a mind-blower.

Also, one other observation. I think many of the responses to your thread really are based on the last line:

My question is: why is James still making jumbos when his other guitar shapes seem to out-perform them?

This comes across as being intentionally provocative and by any standard it is a highly subjective observation that calls into question the judgement and luthiery skills of one the best makers out there. Without this last line, the responses to your thread likely would have been a tad more balanced and constructive. Just a thought....

[sdelsolray]

Originally Posted by ikravchik

A disclaimer to those who are pointing out the financial merits of selling jumbos. My question is not about that. I will re-state it and do so slowly so that everyone can understand. I am not questioning whether it is financially profitable to make jumbos. Are you still with me?... Good. I am wondering why is James Goodall making big guitars (jumbo) that can't out perform his smaller guitars. Pheww... Ok, I hope that was not too hard.

You base your claim on one example of a Goodall Jumbo. Why?

[Montesdad]

Originally Posted by ikravchik

A disclaimer to those who are pointing out the financial merits of selling jumbos. My question is not about that. I will re-state it and do so slowly so that everyone can understand. I am not questioning whether it is financially profitable to make jumbos. Are you still with me?... Good. I am wondering why is James Goodall making big guitars (jumbo) that can't out perform his smaller guitars. Pheww... Ok, I hope that was not too hard.

Haven't you already taken us down this "I don't like the way my Goodall sounds" route previously?
As I recall, you bought this guitar without trying it first - one should have been wiser with that.

Many of us own Goodalls and appreciate much if not all there is about them.
Most all luthiers make different models, use woods and shapes for different peoples wants and needs.
You didn't get one that suits you - that is obvious and you continue to pound that drum.

If you don't like yours, you probably should just sell it as you said you were going to, and move on - - -

And please stop bashing Goodall - I don't believe you're coming across well.
Goodall makes them and is well respected in the industry.
Criticizing him and his business model is again, not too bright - - - Anyone can criticize, not just anyone can make a world class guitar.

[Brucebubs]

Why didn't you trade your Koa jumbo on the HRGC at the Podium?

[D35burst]

Originally Posted by ikravchik

I brought my jumbo in for comparison and the GC blew it away. The other jumbo that was in the store was humbled in comparison too. I doubt there's a high chance of getting 2 Goodall duds in one place. I mean they are nice guitars, but not on the same level as the HRGC. I wonder if there's something magical in the wood combo: euro spruce+honduran rosewood?

Clearly you ended up with a dud.
Based on your previous posts pertaining to the matter you likely didn't know what you were doing when you bought a X000$ guitar with an unfamiliar (to you) body size and wood combination.
Acceptance is the first step to moving on my son, now go in peace and stop whining!

[EverettWilliams]

Originally Posted by ikravchik

Wow, out of all the aggressive attacks on what's wrong with my post, you're one of the few people that actually took the time to consider that what I'm saying is actually true, instead of accusing me. Thanks.

True?!?!? You posted an opinion based on a minuscule sample size? Your statement was an opinion and this poster agreed with you. What you're saying isn't "actually true" it's actually your opinion.

There were better ways to ask your question and share your opinion.

[lizzard]

Originally Posted by Martz911

So that I can send them money - - twelve times so far.

Okay Man, that is just wach (or WHACK!) but...

I am downsizing to one Goodall and while I love the CJs, I'm keeping the Jumbo. Not what I expected but it takes me to Live at the Regal. Oregon Myrtle/ Italian Spruce.

Yeah BayBay (infer Austin Powers voice over).

[Fred]

I asked Donald Trump what kind of guitar he plays. "Jumbo."

[Brucebubs]

Originally Posted by Fred

I asked Donald Trump what kind of guitar he plays. "Jumbo."

Yeah but he said "Mumbo" first.