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Old 04-28-2019, 03:30 PM
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The most annoying bs to come out this year is Mercedes saying how fast Ferrari is in the lead up to every race - then killing them on race day.

Is F1 paying them to say that because if we all know Mercedes is going to win every race then viewing and race attendance figures will drop?

Most we can look forward to this year is watching Lewis spit the dummy when beaten by his team mate .... like 2016.
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Old 04-28-2019, 11:39 PM
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That is more than just annoying. I can't tell whether it's both Lewis and Toto, or mostly, just Lewis who is full of it? Toto when interviewed, seems pretty genuine in his comments/praise/ etc.
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Old 04-29-2019, 01:07 AM
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I believe the next upgrade for Renault will include a reversing camera for Ricciardo's car.
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Old 05-11-2019, 05:26 PM
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Well, of course I'm following.
A less than eventful Azerbaijan race, and looking forward to Spain tomorrow.

I'm currently watching the Indy500 race, rarely screeened in the UK.

Is this the usual standard of presentation, with adverts and commentary clashing, periods of radio silence, missed incidents, and pixilated on car camera footage.

What went wrong?

Also, appalling discipline in the pits, unsafe releases, fuel fires and cold tyres being fitted (so slowly) and tyres rolling across the pit lane.

I'm also seeing a lot of empty grandstands - has this formula lost a lot of popularity?

It certainly makes you appreciate the presentation and technology of f1, but can someone explain all this to me?
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Old 05-11-2019, 08:04 PM
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It's an Ameri'kin thing.

I take it you are watching a "re-run" as the race usually coincides (more or less) with the Monaco GP? Or, are you watching practice, where anything goes?
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Old 05-12-2019, 03:48 AM
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It's an Ameri'kin thing.

I take it you are watching a "re-run" as the race usually coincides (more or less) with the Monaco GP? Or, are you watching practice, where anything goes?
No, the race that was run in Indianapolis yesterday 11th May.
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Old 05-12-2019, 03:56 AM
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Well, of course I'm following.
A less than eventful Azerbaijan race, and looking forward to Spain tomorrow.

I'm currently watching the Indy500 race, rarely screeened in the UK.

Is this the usual standard of presentation, with adverts and commentary clashing, periods of radio silence, missed incidents, and pixilated on car camera footage.

What went wrong?

Also, appalling discipline in the pits, unsafe releases, fuel fires and cold tyres being fitted (so slowly) and tyres rolling across the pit lane.

I'm also seeing a lot of empty grandstands - has this formula lost a lot of popularity?

It certainly makes you appreciate the presentation and technology of f1, but can someone explain all this to me?
I had to look it up. Apparently, it was the Indy Car "Grand Prix" run on the Indianapolis road course, not the oval. With the exception of the Indy 500, Indy Car races are generally poorly attended. I don't know how that circuit stays in business.
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No, the race that was run in Indianapolis yesterday 11th May.
You were watching an "IndyCar" GP race not "the 500", that's on May 26. But none the less I think many American fans would agree "IndyCar" is not up the level of F1
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Old 05-12-2019, 07:39 AM
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You were watching an "IndyCar" GP race not the 500, that's on May 26. But none the less I think many American fans would agree it is not up the level of F1
Ah, thanks for that, I thought it was more like a proper racing circuit, but assumed that if it was at that circuit it was 500.

So, will they be doing what 200 laps going round and round?

I guess it's all about reliability and concentration?
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Old 05-12-2019, 02:53 PM
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After watching the Spanish GP I have declared that Mercedes is not really a part of the F1 "fraternity" and going forth, the F1 field is comprised of 9 teams plus 1 demonstration manufacturer.

Funny how Lewis was lamenting his "horrible" qualifying run, and then 'manage" to do what he did today.

If not for Mercedes, these races would actually be fun and interesting.

I did like how the team (Mercedes) honored Deiter during the podium ceremonies.
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Old 05-12-2019, 02:57 PM
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No, the race that was run in Indianapolis yesterday 11th May.
I haven't really been much of a fan of the 500. IIRC, the infield road course was created when F1 began racing there, utilizing a part of the oval to create the complete track. And, F1 ran it CW compared to Indy running the course CCW.

As to all the mistakes and other stuff you brought up, that's what Americans like to see, I think.
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Spanking Vettle one race at a time. Love it.
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You were watching an "IndyCar" GP race not "the 500", that's on May 26. But none the less I think many American fans would agree "IndyCar" is not up the level of F1

Now they both go to COTA we have a direct comparison. F1 laps at 1.32.32 whilst Indy takes 1.46.6.over 14 seconds slower. However, MotoGP are around 2 minutes around the same track so as long as they are not all on the track at the same time they will all be exciting to the fans and boring to the rest
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Old 05-13-2019, 05:30 AM
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I had to google COTA .... I see it means the Austin track, or "car park racing" as its called by some of the drivers.

I don't really understand why it is called "the Circuit of the Americas" as there are so many better tacks in Canada, Mexico, Brazil etc.


Regarding Mercedes dominance, if you look back over the years of F1, there has often been one team which had dominance for a year or more. That's one of the reasons why they change the rules and regs so often.

Even poor Williams who is just about managing to get two cars on the track used to be winners once.

Certainly there was a Ferrari era, and a Renault era and Mclaren Lotus etc.
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You were watching an "IndyCar" GP race not "the 500", that's on May 26. But none the less I think many American fans would agree "IndyCar" is not up the level of F1
It’s just a massively different concept in racing. There’s a ton of reasons of course but the simple answer can be found in team budgets. F1 is stratospheric. The Indy Series not even in the same Universe. With that kind of money comes the best of everything and F1 for sure and on every level represents the best of everything.
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