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Old 11-18-2020, 05:52 AM
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I was just playing around with chords and I stumbled upon a progression that sounded a bit like a bossa nova tune. Chords are

Chord One
X
8
7
9
8
X

Chord two
x
8
7
8
8
x

Chord three
x
8
6
8
8
x

I know the first one is an F major 9, but anyone knows what the other two are?
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Old 11-18-2020, 05:56 AM
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This might help(Reverse Guitar Chord Finder) identify those chords for you..
https://www.guitaristsreference.com/...?action=finder

I tried Reverse Guitar Chord Finder and it claims the chords are....

Fmaj9
F9
Fm9
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Old 11-18-2020, 07:36 AM
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...I know the first one is an F major 9, but anyone knows what the other two are?
F-B-D-G low to high. Fmaj9 would include A, C and E, so not that. I might call it G7, but it depends where it sits within the chord progression and how it's used.

The other two are F-Bb-D-G (maybe Bb6) and F-Bb-Db-G (maybe Bbmin6).

Again, it will depend on how they're used.
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Old 11-18-2020, 08:38 AM
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I wonder if the OP's posted string layout is reversed ?

If the first chord is called a Fmaj9,
then I assume the string layout of the first chord diagrams is.

E | X
A | 8
D | 7
G | 9
B | 8
e | X

If the string layout is the other way,
then I agree the chord can be called a G7.
Reverse Chord Finder also suggests a C# 7(b5,b9)

e | X
B | 8
G | 7
D | 9
A | 8
E | X
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Old 11-18-2020, 10:00 AM
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If the top X is the low E string, which I assume it is because you call the first chord an F maj9 , then you have an Fmaj9 F9 and Fmn9. These are all pretty standard grips, all of which omit the 5th (C). The fifth is available on either E string if you want it.

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Old 11-18-2020, 09:57 PM
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I wonder if the OP's posted string layout is reversed ?

If the first chord is called a Fmaj9,
then I assume the string layout of the first chord diagrams is.

E | X
A | 8
D | 7
G | 9
B | 8
e | X

If the string layout is the other way,
then I agree the chord can be called a G7.
Reverse Chord Finder also suggests a C# 7(b5,b9)

e | X
B | 8
G | 7
D | 9
A | 8
E | X
Sorry I guess it wasn't clear enough so some might have read it reversed. Fmin9 and F9 it is then.

Thanks for the handy chord finder
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Old 11-19-2020, 03:06 AM
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Sorry I guess it wasn't clear enough so some might have read it reversed. Fmin9 and F9 it is then.

Thanks for the handy chord finder
The first one is Fmaj9, remember. Very different from F9.

Keeping your reversed tab:

Chord One
X
8 = F = root
7 = A = major 3rd
9 = E = major 7th
8 = G = major 9th
X

Chord two
x
8 = F = root
7 = A = major 3rd
8 = Eb = minor 7th
8 = G = major 9th
x

Chord three
x
8 = F = root
6 = Ab = minor 3rd
8 = Eb = minor 7th
8 = G = major 9th
x

The middle chord has all the standard intervals, hence the simplest name "F9" (aka F dominant 9th). The other two each have one interval changed from the defaults (in bold) which is where their names come from Fmaj9, Fm9.

Your sequence is a fairly common one. It could lead to Bb7:

E 6 = Bb
A 8 = F
D 6 = Ab
G 7 = D
B 6 = F
A X

- and then you can repeat your three shapes 2 frets lower: Ebmaj9, Eb9, Ebm9, and then Ab7...

Welcome to the Wonderful World Of Jazz Standards! (you have now entered the rabbit hole...)
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Old 11-22-2020, 09:37 PM
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The first one is Fmaj9, remember. Very different from F9.

Keeping your reversed tab:

Chord One
X
8 = F = root
7 = A = major 3rd
9 = E = major 7th
8 = G = major 9th
X

Chord two
x
8 = F = root
7 = A = major 3rd
8 = Eb = minor 7th
8 = G = major 9th
x

Chord three
x
8 = F = root
6 = Ab = minor 3rd
8 = Eb = minor 7th
8 = G = major 9th
x

The middle chord has all the standard intervals, hence the simplest name "F9" (aka F dominant 9th). The other two each have one interval changed from the defaults (in bold) which is where their names come from Fmaj9, Fm9.

Your sequence is a fairly common one. It could lead to Bb7:

E 6 = Bb
A 8 = F
D 6 = Ab
G 7 = D
B 6 = F
A X

- and then you can repeat your three shapes 2 frets lower: Ebmaj9, Eb9, Ebm9, and then Ab7...

Welcome to the Wonderful World Of Jazz Standards! (you have now entered the rabbit hole...)
Thanks for this! I'll try this sequence and see what I can come up with. So the next sequence looks like the key of Eb. Is it common in Jazz to disregard chord theory and go through multiple keys?

Maybe throw in some major 9 arpeggios and mixolydian licks on the dominant 9 chords?
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Old 11-22-2020, 10:31 PM
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Thanks for this! I'll try this sequence and see what I can come up with. So the next sequence looks like the key of Eb. Is it common in Jazz to disregard chord theory and go through multiple keys?
It's not disregarding theory at all. In fact, it's simply following the circle of 5ths.

Not every chord in a song has to be "in" a given key, jazz or not. But it's more common in jazz and classical than in pop music to temporarily modulate to a "different" key for a bit before coming "home" to the original key.
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