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"Frankly Scarlett, I don't give a... "
My enjoyment of some Eagles music (I don't like all their stuff) continues regardless of the technology allegedly used in it's creation and the allegedly questionable moral compass of some of it's creators. It's music, folks, not the music business, not politics. Just sayin'... |
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People in their 70's rarely sing like they did when they were 30. For me hearing them live with no "enhancements" is still preferable. Once someone just can't do it anymore then it's time to hang it up IMO.
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Bob's analysis seems to support the possibility that it is the same recording with different post processing, or post processing on one but not the other. I dont see where that precludes the possibility that it is the same vocal recording, used on two different nights, perhaps with different post processing on one, or both. Both scenarios- that a malicious person took an evening's performance, applied post processing, and presented it as a recording from a different night, or that it was the same vocal track used on two different nights, but again, possibly with post processing, applied by who knows whom, seem far fetched to me but who knows.
But this is just one isolated pair of recordings. The entire picture that seems to have emerged on youtube includes a number of different performances, posted by different people, of audio and video, on different songs, and includes other members of the band. We have guys in their mid 70s singing falsetto harmonies in the same keys, audible notes where people appear to have their mouths closed or not in sync. You have Joe Walsh struggling to sing even the less demanding sections of In the City, but somehow perfectly hitting the high parts at the verse endings - again in the same key- but with a slightly different volume and timbre, perhaps a backing track kicking in? Maybe nothing is a slam dunk, and maybe these posters are all Eagles haters, but in my mind the likelihood that there is at least some vocal track enhancements across the board seems rather high. I dont know why people would be so shocked if that were true. |
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What I didn't say in my mini-rant above (#21) is that I've always respected Vince Gill and Joe Walsh as top-shelf, real-deal musicians. It bugs me to think that they might be complicit on any level with this sort of phony baloney.
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There is no other gig on the planet that will pay them what they make off of each Eagles concert. I would play for every dollar I can make...
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I've found this love-hate pitchfork response to one individual's internet conspiracy/post extremely funny especially since most of the vitriol has been directed at how much money they might be making. It seems far more like some type of resentment that a band (whatever band) that has been around over 50 years and deserved every benefit of releasing albums and selling over 200 million records should not be able to continue working until they decide to retire. I don't believe anyone here would do their job, whatever it is, for 50 years and then stay working for free. This response happens a lot with acting, music and sports. Many bystanders and spectators don't understand ( and dislike) why so-and-so makes so much money for what they do. Why care? If people stop paying to see them, they'll retire. Until then.......... rock on.
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I remember watching a Franki Valli "performance" 15 or so years ago and he was so obviously lip synching. I saw he was coming to my city this year, tickets go up to $120, and he can't even mime well anymore.
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I will just keep the memories of Frankfort Germany in 1977 during their Hotel California tour when it was the Eagles at their best.
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Ditto for me summer of ‘77, except it was at an outdoor horse race track in my town. Jesse Winchester opened. Fantastic concert! I saw them again during the History of the Eagles tour. Great music as usual. Blasé stage presence...just going through the motions. Joe was the only animated character.
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I'm not technologically advanced, but even with the limited fan concert audio on YouTube it would seem to be easy to determine what's going on for someone with audio skills. Just get the audio from recent uploads of one song, and see if it lines up. Here are the "Desperado"s I could find.
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