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The workaround seems to be to mix cool into a Master fader (which governs a pair of buses feeding an audio Mix track), and apply whatever glue compressor and/or brickwall limiting there. No need to push the level hard there, either. You can always normalize after. That way, nothing anywhere near a toasty level goes though a mix engine. Does any of this apply to Nuendo? |
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Big topic! If your DAW is Logic Pro X you cannot set the normalization amount if you use the Normalization function (Audio File Editor>Function>Normalize). The program automatically sets the maximum Peak Level before clipping (at least that's my understanding). In light of the different loudness standards for different media and modes of transmission a single output level seems like a bad idea to me. On the upside there are other ways in Logic Pro X to set different loudness levels for one's choice of destination(s). Here's a link that covers the topic in considerable detail.
http://logicprogem.com/Logic-Pro-X-T...maization.html |
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Incidentally, I use the same system when I am mastering. I master products fairly regularly and go at it different ways depending on the product: If I am creating a DDP (disc description protocol) image with metadata to send to a plant for CD manufacturing I use Steinberg Wavelab to create the DDP files. I will often do pre-production on Nuendo to get the individual songs ready to go into WaveLab. When I am mastering for video I am complying with the CALM act and setting the levels for -24 LUFS as measured in iZotope Insight. I supply audio files to a DVD or BluRay author. Bob
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I believe you are slightly mistaken: you can specify a percentage level in settings though of course that then becomes universal. As you say you can’t specify a percentage when actually applying the normalisation. I haven’t tried changing the value later but I normally set it to around 75% thus leaving me room for manoeuvre later on in mix process. I am on holiday just now and can’t check my Mac so I make this assertion with reservation that I may be wrong and need to double check when I get home!
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Thank you, pieterh, for the heads up. |
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Normalization can help if you have really quiet tracks that need some gain to be within range of your system/DAW's ability to effectively deal with...but other than that, there are much better ways to increase gain IMHO. Most of those better options also provide other benefits to your signal chain.
The problem with clipping can be avoided with a good meter that reads True Peak (inter-sample overs are usually the culprit & most PPM meters don't detect inter-sample overs) & being smart about headroom. FWIW - the broadcast industry is paving the way with some great specs for loudness & levels (ITU-R BS 1770). I'm hoping the music industry follows suit to help "normalize" our diverse listening environments & sources (pun intended).
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