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I'll throw in another vote for the X20 being not quite as loud as a dread. Not a huge difference between my englemann-topped Taylor dread, but it was noticeable.
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My conclusion was that both instruments were (subjectively) equally loud, and while the X20 sounded better to my ears than the Martin when played, I gave the Martin a slight edge over the Emerald tone wise when recorded a few meters away. |
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Point being the offset soundhole doesn't make the guitar louder or better sounding, but it makes it both louder and better sounding to the PLAYER. As I am often my whole audience, that MATTERS, to me at least. I'm sure a well designed soundport in a more traditional guitar with a center-soundhole would do the same thing, but I've never played one. I'm sure my old D28 may have been louder than the X20, but to me as a player, the X20 sounded louder. And very similar too FWIW. If you're plugging in, I'm sure this offset soundhole is much much less important, maybe totally irrelevant. But for playing acoustically and hearing yourself, it makes a HUGE difference. |
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Interesting to note in the new July shipping video, Alistair comments, for a reason that he doesn't fully explain), that the nylon string guitars with a woody top are at about 90% of a pure carbon fiber nylon string guitar.
Interesting.... Cheers... Todd in Chicago |
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I think the CF makers are 10% away from figuring out how to produce a top (and maybe bracing) that resonate with nylon. A new medium represents new problems. Alistair is a problem solver. My electric, thin-bodied X7 is remarkably resonate--even when played acoustically. I have no idea why. The in-process thin-bodied electric 10 will be interesting.
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The way u explain it does make sense. Cheers... Todd in Chicago |
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"There's only so thin that a veneer can go." Does carbon fiber come in variable thinness?
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https://www.rockwestcomposites.com/m...n-fiber-fabric A lot of assumptions there, of course.
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Eatswodo;
Thanks for the information. You answered the question regarding thinness and you also opened my eyes regarding a large number of possible weaves. Also, in the sample packet I see colored samples; got to wonder how those would look on a guitar. |
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On a similar note... they decided to go with a pre-molded back and sides because they could not get a consistent sound quality with carbon layered fabrics because the epoxy would not always flow and conform consistently creating dead spots at times. They decided with a "special" recipe of carbon and polymers to form a consistent back and side for constant sound quality. Not sure how much of this is marketing ... but do like their sound!!! |
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Fwiw, my X20 is at least as loud as my 814ce, probably more.
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