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Old 03-05-2019, 01:27 AM
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Could be the Mac but I honestly doubt it ..... is it a Fusion drive machine ? there were some problems with Fusion a few PT versions back 10 or 11 but I thought it was more file location issues

Humm ? to clarify a bit further so you have PT not PT Free correct ? and you are running Mohave OS ? But on what PT version 2018.12 ?

Note PT is not yet officially qualified for Mohave, so that could be it, but also might not, as people are reporting running Mohave without issue over on the DUC.. Supposed to get qualified this month hopefully .

Also to clarify neither PT Playback Engine or the I/O actually specify or use "Monitor" per se ... I am guessing you mean Audio Device and PT is launching but does not see the Audio device and defaults to what ? your computer sound card ?
which does happen but is not normal

You might try this press down the N key before launching PT and hold it until PT either asks you choose an Audio Device, or launches and is automatically back on the correct device .

If that does not work you can always trash PT preferences.
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That is correct. It loses or changes the audio device settings. I am running Mohave. Will give your suggestions a try. I am using the paid version of PT

My new monitors should arrive this week. Fingers crossed.

Thanks again!
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Old 03-05-2019, 09:19 AM
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Good point my monitors actually have bare wire connectors .

The spacing between them makes me wonder if they're not banana connecters with a bare-wire option. Standard banana spacing is 3/4" on center.
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Old 03-05-2019, 01:19 PM
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I've seen similar on stereo speakers but never on studio monitors.
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My KRK Rokits (the 6" originals) use wire connectors, as did the original Event 20/20 8" monitors...of course this was 20 years ago...
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I took a look on the intertubes. Amphion still uses the same connectors but KRK has both TRS and XLR, Event has XLR...
For clarity, my response to your statement above is correct. These were/are unpowered monitors and used wire connectors only. I still use a Hafler TA100 power amp on my Rokits.

The original unpowered Yamaha NS-10 monitors, a studio standard for decades, also used wire connectors only.

You are correct that all of the newer monitors use XLR, TRS, or both.
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The spacing between them makes me wonder if they're not banana connecters with a bare-wire option. Standard banana spacing is 3/4" on center.
No they are just wire connectors,
here are some better photos for clarity.


Here is the inner plug screwed out of the sleeve


Then this is the plug piece that screws into the sleeve




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For clarity, my response to your statement above is correct. These were/are unpowered monitors and used wire connectors only. I still use a Hafler TA100 power amp on my Rokits.

The original unpowered Yamaha NS-10 monitors, a studio standard for decades, also used wire connectors only.

You are correct that all of the newer monitors use XLR, TRS, or both.
Yes Active / Powered, have TRS or XLR .. I am guessing most new Passive/unpowered, still have wire connectors. Like my Amphions
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No they are just wire connectors,
here are some better photos for clarity.
Interesting, thanks.

Why are there two wires connected to each terminal?
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Interesting, thanks.

Why are there two wires connected to each terminal?
It is Canare 4S8 quad 4 conductor 16 AWG speaker cable (OH and I just realized I had not stated the logic behind using a 4 conductor for speaker cable with pairs twisted together) is that you get twice the gauge capacity for signal flow with 1/2 the stiffness ..

Same connectors on the Amphion power amp (on the left you see the XLR's from the monitor outs on the interface)

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It is Canare 4S8 quad 4 conductor 16 AWG speaker cable

Same connectors on the Amphion power amp (on the left you see the XLR's from the monitor outs on the interface)
I didn't know I'd be opening up a can of worms. Thanks for the photos.
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I didn't know I'd be opening up a can of worms. Thanks for the photos.
Winding a bit for sure, yet is still related to Title. And some cans are more fun than others

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Winding a bit for sure, yet is still related to Title. And some cans are more fun than others

I love that. Perfect.
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The spacing between them makes me wonder if they're not banana connecters with a bare-wire option. Standard banana spacing is 3/4" on center.
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No they are just wire connectors,
here are some better photos for clarity...
An email from Amphion:

Hello Brent

The connector is a so called 3-way connector. It accepts banana to the center hole and bare wire and spades to the slot which is underside of the connector

Julian Hyvonen
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An email from Amphion:

Hello Brent

The connector is a so called 3-way connector. It accepts banana to the center hole and bare wire and spades to the slot which is underside of the connector

Julian Hyvonen
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I stand corrected, thanks. I had no clue the holes accepted Banana plugs. As a side note while hard to tell from the pictures but center to center on the holes is more like , 1& 1/4 inch, but apparently single banana plugs are now prolific
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Old 03-06-2019, 12:11 PM
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... hard to tell from the pictures but center to center on the holes is more like , 1& 1/4 inch, but apparently single banana plugs are now prolific
Not surprised - US bananas are almost always 3/4" while European ones are all over the place. I've got both Rogers and KEF speakers that have goofy banana spacing so they go from 2 single-bananas to wires to a dangling 3/4" double banana. Conveniently, banana plugs are hermaphroditic. Which isn't a word I get to type all that often.
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