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Now obviously everyone's realistic budgets can be very different,,,, but I do not think "for home use" makes any difference... people buy $1500 + guitars "for home use" also, or spend that and more for home TV or Home Theater. It is a matter of personal priorities not location or use.
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I came to this conclusion long ago. I've posted about my fave amp before, but will reiterate here; the Tubeworks TD752 combo, (as well as TD752ES head) is an early 90s-era hybrid, with a Butler/Chandler Tube Driver preamp built into it, with what they call 'MosValve' power amp...a 100 watt mosfet solid state power amp that's been 'tuned' to emulate the reaction of tubes to audio signal....and it is LOUD!
These things weigh about 25 lbs and have a really great, very tube-like clean tone; or kick in the TubeDriver preamp and it can go from slightly furry to nasty blasting distortion. Also, they LOVE pedals...really a perfect set-up for big complex pedal board. I bought my first one new, out of the close-out bin of a local music store, about 1991...in later years when they were going for about $100.00 bucks I bought another one just to have a spare....not that I'll ever need a spare, as these are known for their extreme reliability...and they are being discovered...price is going up a bit, but you can still get one for under $300.00, if you can find it. They're quite good all on their own, but personally I use mine with a 1st gen Line6 POD front end and a compressor pedal before that. I have replaced the old speakers (Eminence Legend 12-ish) with Celestions...V30 in one, V-Series in the other, and I use a 1x12 Avatar extension cab with a V30, for gigs...little extra low end punch. These things go against everything that most people assume about solid state amps, except for the light weight and reliability. They also make for a very nice blank slate if you like to run a pedal board or, like me, a modeling preamp. In terms of power they will stand up to almost anything...even though they're about the size & weight of a little practice amp. I have 3 other nice tube amps...I use these Tubeworks amps to gig with.
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No! Guitar amps have never been hi-fi and guitar players have always loved them for that. The sound is created in the amp (plus cab and speaker) just as much as the guitar. It's really all one big instrument.
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Getting back to the OP .While I am still not really convinced that any solid state amp with digital tube emulation is really going to sound and feel like a tube amp.... I am not so jaded that I cannot see the appeal that SS has for some. I am surprised no one has mentioned Quilter Amps, I think if I was going to look seriously into solid state, it would be high on the list of candidates
https://www.quilterlabs.com/index.php/productpage/micropro-mach-2-12-inch-hd
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I'd like to see a shoot out review of these amps and the Fender Mustang line. Or just a the Mustang III vs Katana 100 through a single 12".
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I hear you...the thing that seems to have made the difference as far as the "feel" of my SS/Modeling set-up is the addition of a compressor (in this case a Boss CS-3) in front of it all...really puts the 'bloom' into the tone of these models that is missing from the straight digital/SS signal, and I get the extreme versatility of having the choice of about a dozen distinct amp flavors with the flip of a switch. Fender cleans to Marshall crunch to Class A jangle...and they are all quite convincing.
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But there is just "something" about my Supro Titan that is hard to express in words. Perhaps for me part of that "something" is in fact the simplicity and not having of gobs of knobs and selections , 1 channel , Volume, Bass, Treble, analog tube driven Reverb and Tremolo . I was going to sell it to fund a Port City Pearl 50, but now I may keep it and look into the Pearl when I can afford it without selling the Supro
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Just sold my Katana 50 today. Fender Champion 20 and 40 pushed it out. The Champions absolutely need a speaker upgrade tho. I've had several classic tube amps over the years but being able to get a sound at a volume level that works is easier with a modeling amp.
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I'm playing the SS more than the tube amps now. SS amps have come a long way.
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