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That's how I learned. It's not like we had too many options, but it was at least a good ear developer. You young'ens, you don't know how good you have it, especially just starting off. Just wait 30 years from now when you're reading posts in the AGF forum that say: "Can't wait for the ole' geezers to chime in about back in the day when they were watching YouTube and listening to MP3's!"
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If I play a song for someone they will know what song it is. It will be that close. But no closer, because it is MY COVER of the song. I never try to sound note for note like anybody. I recently started attending an acoustical jam. Only then did I notice that I play most everything slower than the original. But that is the way I like it. IT IS my cover. |
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YouTube has been the real game-changer (including your stuff - thanks from a happy subscriber!). Not only all the free lessons (which are of varying worth), but the playback speed control feature they added. Now I can watch someone’s fingers at 50% or even 25% playback speed, which makes it really easy to learn new stuff. In a way, this has been a mixed blessing. Back when we were young (we’re almost the same vintage), the thing most of us aimed at was getting the general idea. And, if you listen to Dave Van Ronk (just to pick a name) playing a Mississippi John Hurt song, you notice that he’s not doing it note-for-note. (Which would actually be a trick, since I don’t think Mississippi John Hurt ever did songs note for note the same twice...) Now, everybody seems to be obsessed with producing exact copies, and people don’t seem to like to use their ears anymore. I never saw so much tab around before, and I’m always surprised when somebody produces a YouTube video of a standard 12-bar blues song, with pretty standard blues licks over the chords, and a dozen people ask for tabs. (I personally never liked tab - I mostly learn by a 90/10 combination of listening/watching.) Anyway, sorry for the rant. It was just funny to see that someone else uses the same exact system. |
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A couple summers ago I was camping with some friends who are old folkies who can play and sing well. One of them wanted to play "Teach Your Children" which we did a passable version of. A non- musician in the bunch said "no, it didn't sound the same." I couldn't help my response to her "well let's see, none of us are David Crosby, Stephen Stills, Graham Nash or Neil Young; Jerry Garcia is permanently unable to play steel with us, I'm picking mandolin instead of guitar, but yeah other than that I couldn't hear any difference." |
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2 reasons why I didn't bother playing out when I was younger.
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We didn’t see eye-to-eye. I’ve also heard (and still hear) your last sentence a lot. I played out for a good 30 years, then stopped. It wasn’t because of this, though. But the worst comment I ever heard was while I was working as a bass player in a straight-ahead band that played standards and worked cocktail hours, dinners, parties, ... After one job, a guy came up to us and said, “You guys were great — Not too loud!”. Sigh. |
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I used to be able to memorise lyrics, but no longer. Also, my trio and I have an pretty horrendously large repertoire. My cheat sheets also have notes about arrangements so we know who does what and when. I use a music stand but have it lower than my guitar so it doesn't come between me and the audience and I tend to just glance down at it as and when necessary, rather than reading everything. Thankfully muscle memory still ensures he progressions. Well, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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And yes, some smart mouth kid will say "what's an MP3?". . Meanwhile people will still be cherishing vinyl. All in jest, of course. |
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Thanks for all your input. I’ve found that playing along with the tune your trying to learn really helps my playing. I’ve also been experimenting with backing tracks with some very good results and others not so much. I especially like the backing tracks for learning to sing a particular song. At sixty years old all of this provides me with excellent brain exercise. This is a great site with some fantastic fellowship in this wonderful way we have chosen to express ourselves!
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I only play along with the tune once I've gotten it to the point that I can play it fairly well..
Prior to that, when not working on playing it; I'll have the tune playing loudly in the house via speakers to embed the tempo and feel into my senses. Dave
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Q. How do you practice/play alone?
A. I shoo everyone else out of the room. But seriously, at home I'll listen to the piece on my stereo in the living room and maybe ascertain the key and tuning and any really weird chord positions. I'll aurally commit the guitar part to memory then I go up to my little guitar studio and work it out with a guitar. I got started in the early '70s dropping the needle on a record over and over and just developed the skill set that allows me to (mostly) work out pop, rock, and folk by ear. Oh, every once and again I'll pull it up on my iPhone in the guitar studio if necessary. Bob
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I primarily do my own songs and when I did gig it was just me and an acoustic (miced) doing my own material. So I need nothing other than a guitar and my voice. I never have been one to sit down to actually practice, I just play music. In doing so you do improve (hopefully), but I never have thought of it as 'practice'.
I hate playing with any backing tracks, etc., for one thing they are someone else's songs, not your own, and they are also someone else's arrangement that never changes. |
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