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Old 12-11-2020, 08:04 PM
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Impedance balanced means both the + and - signals in the output have the same source impedance. Typically only the + side is driven, and - side remains at zero volts. But, this method ensures that connecting to a balanced input will provide all the benefits of noise immunity that one expects from a balanced output. It's good enough. And, it is compatible with a mono unbalanced plug for unbalanced operation.

There are some outputs that are also voltage balanced as well as impedance balanced. This means there is a + signal and a - signal of equal magnitude but opposite polarity. This is good in that it gives twice the signal level, but is not necessary for the main benefit of balanced outputs.

The confusion from these two types of balanced outputs may be the source of the conflicting information you are receiving.

FYI, ToneDexter's XLR output is of the second type. Its instrument output is of the first type.
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I went full Helix. I’ve been a Venue user for probably 7 years and added a few pedals here and there. But I wanted an all in one solution and also a chance to get back into electric guitar.

IRs are a game changer on both the stomp and Helix. I imagine it might be a little more difficult to change eq and such on the fly on the stomp but I really like the current Line 6 offerings. Seriously, check out IRs.

Trs to 1/4 will work. We use this with one of our PodGo’s and works great.
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Great info !

OP here.
I am now leaning towards the HX Effects unit (not the Stomp).
Since I won't be using the amp/cab modules with acoustics.

But I must say - the HX Stomp's size is very appealing!
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Great info !

OP here.
I am now leaning towards the HX Effects unit (not the Stomp).
Since I won't be using the amp/cab modules with acoustics.

But I must say - the HX Stomp's size is very appealing!
I agree Jake. The Stomp is the right size. The HX Effects is a substantial piece of hardware.
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Old 12-14-2020, 07:33 AM
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Great info !

OP here.
I am now leaning towards the HX Effects unit (not the Stomp).
Since I won't be using the amp/cab modules with acoustics.

But I must say - the HX Stomp's size is very appealing!
For the most part I dont use any of the stomps amp/cab models. Just a few songs
Where I want that electric sound from my acoustic. Mostly just use it for the eq and
Compression. I have presets for mandolin
And acoustic guitar and tenor guitar. All
Switchable with the press of a button.
Fx like verb delay are usually assigned to one button. Fx like trem or chorus usually have
Separate buttons. I like the stomps footprint.
I had a helix rack and floor controller at one
Time..great bit of kit but took up alot of real estate..
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Old 12-15-2020, 08:04 AM
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For the most part I dont use any of the stomps amp/cab models. Just a few songs
Where I want that electric sound from my acoustic. Mostly just use it for the eq and
Compression. I have presets for mandolin
And acoustic guitar and tenor guitar. All
Switchable with the press of a button.
Fx like verb delay are usually assigned to one button. Fx like trem or chorus usually have
Separate buttons. I like the stomps footprint.
I had a helix rack and floor controller at one
Time..great bit of kit but took up alot of real estate..
Excellent .. It sounds like the HX Stomp is way to go!
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Old 12-15-2020, 10:07 AM
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Excellent .. It sounds like the HX Stomp is way to go!
I've found it adequate for my needs.
Neural dsp is also coming out with a quad cortex very soon..which is only slightly
Bigger but seems more feature rich.
But has not the track record of the helix.
Line 6 has been in the hardware business awhile.
I recently built a tele and am exploring now
Alot of the amp/cab features of the stomp.
It's a pretty cool little pedal.
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Old 12-16-2020, 08:52 AM
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I've found it adequate for my needs.
Neural dsp is also coming out with a quad cortex very soon..which is only slightly
Bigger but seems more feature rich.
But has not the track record of the helix.
Line 6 has been in the hardware business awhile.
I recently built a tele and am exploring now
Alot of the amp/cab features of the stomp.
It's a pretty cool little pedal.
Hey - Great point about Line6 track record. I see so many user forums supporting it as well. So Noobs can get help.

Question I am trying to find out
- Will the HX stomp eliminate the need for the Baggs Venue?
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Old 12-16-2020, 11:56 AM
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Question I am trying to find out
- Will the HX stomp eliminate the need for the Baggs Venue?
Yes. The Venue is a very tiny subset of what a Stomp can be configured to do.
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Old 12-16-2020, 06:48 PM
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Yes. The Venue is a very tiny subset of what a Stomp can be configured to do.

Thanks Jon! Just got my HX Stomp.
Looking forward to the possibilities

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Hey - Great point about Line6 track record. I see so many user forums supporting it as well. So Noobs can get help.

Question I am trying to find out
- Will the HX stomp eliminate the need for the Baggs Venue?
The only thing stomp doesnt have is an xlr out. You can change the output
settings to inst level. And go into a simple Di to get xlr to board.
Or direct into a hi z channel if your not to far. I use left mono out to a felix.
This gives me a global eq I can adj for the room without diving into menus.
The stomps indiv8dual block menus are pretty quick to access though. I've found the stomp to be a wonderfully creative tool.
Allowing me to create sounds I could never get out
Of an acoustic.
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Old 12-24-2020, 04:05 PM
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The only thing stomp doesnt have is an xlr out. You can change the output
settings to inst level. And go into a simple Di to get xlr to board.
Or direct into a hi z channel if your not to far. I use left mono out to a felix.
This gives me a global eq I can adj for the room without diving into menus.
The stomps indiv8dual block menus are pretty quick to access though. I've found the stomp to be a wonderfully creative tool.
Allowing me to create sounds I could never get out
Of an acoustic.
Yep - I like having the Venue DI/EQ as my "Global EQ" into my PA.

After spending a couple days "turning knobs" .. Very pleased with the HX Stomp effects.

I placed the HXS in the effects loop of the Venue. Just playing with different reverbs and other effects at the moment.

QUESTION: On HX - Global settings - In and Out - do I use INST or LINE?

This thing (HX) is amazing and endless. Little bit of a learning curve - for sure!

Sound is fantastic through my Bose L1 Pro8. Cannot wait to try this out in a live setting!

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