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A thread about P90s, how cool is that.
I have a Gibson Les Paul and an SG with P90s. I also have those same guitars with humbuckers. I'm a humbucker guy myself but those P90s sound so good and can really rock. I wonder if you'd have better success with a different amp with your humbuckers. You might not prefer it over the P90s but you might find more use for them. |
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i have a few guitars with p90s and even tho they can be noisy, they have their own character that should be in most everyone's arsenal. i have a wonderful les paul with fantastic humbuckers and wouldn't trade it for the world. i also have 2 strats and a tele that gives fantastic single coils sounds.
got to have them all. ha! play music!
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The ASAT Special, as the model became known, features jumbo single-coil Magnetic Field Design™ pickups, each with a narrow bobbin aperture for a coil which is shallow yet wide. In this regard, an MFD™ jumbo single coil is similar to a P-90 or Jazzmaster® pickup, yet the MFD principle provides a punchier bottom end and brighter top end sparkling with harmonics.While the ones in your S-500 are described as http://glguitars.com/product/fullerton-deluxe-s500/ Magnetic Field Design™ single-coil pickups, each designed by Leo Fender himself. These MFD™ pickups deliver a bright and sparkly top end and robust bottom end, all without losing midrange focus.The jumbos look like jazz masters. So, both great pickups, just different. I didn't want someone to get the idea there was only one MFD- I should have clarified my original description. The G&L Asat Special was my second electric (after the LP) and first without humbuckers. I was attracted to that sound even before I knew the difference between humbuckers and single coils, including P90s. I may be a P90(jumbo MFD!) guy, after all. |
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Bob, have you compared the ‘57’s to Duncan ‘59’s?
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Not in similar guitars. I installed a Seymour Duncan JB SH-4 in the bridge and a SH-1 '59 in the neck of an Epiphone Flying V I gave my son. The stock Epi pickups were always a tad shrill to my ears. When we installed these Duncans it made me genuinely miss that V. They were mellow and sweet and full-bodied, giving the guitar a really respectable sound.
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I have three amps: 5e3 Tweed Deluxe, AC4HW1, Princeton Reverb. I also have a recent Epi ES-335 Dot (with SD Antiquity HBs in it). The original pickups were fine, no problems, but I love the Antiquities. The Dot sounds heavenly through both the PR and Vox. It sounds good through the 5e3 as well yet, despite my knob turning and tweaking, it lacks articulation when played through the more mid-focused 5e3. I much prefer the Dot through the PR and Vox. My conclusion: ChrisN may actually not like HBs, but he may just need more amps. |
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I agree, amps factor in quite a bit, and on amps with usable tone controls and ways to manage the gain stages, you probably should use different settings for full size humbuckers and lower output single coils, at least some of the time.
However, I generally don't. May be to my detriment, but I play with a lot of different pickups, and when I have my amp set "right" I don't generally want to fool with it. Volume makes a difference too. I may play at high volumes a few times a year, and guitars and their pickups often sound and react differently at high volumes compared to what sounds good at lower levels.
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I have both. I find the '59 can take a little more gain than the '57 classics. They're both great pickups but for '80s hard rock type music I'd take the SD '59 over the '57 Classic.
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I've got a set of Probuckers for the Epi but haven't tried them yet (they're plug/play, which is nice, but even that's a chore through an F hole). They've got alnico II magnets. I thought with the IIs it would be less hot than the Vs, but I'm clearly not clear on what is "hot," and how hotness/non-hotness translates into what I hear. My assumption was that a "hot" pickup (to me, lots of windings and V magnet) would have so-so (less articulate) sound down low to enable better presentation at louder volumes with more distortion. I further assumed a (to me) less hot pickup would have fewer windings and a II, which would make it better for low volume clean work, but wouldn't allow lots of distortion without breaking up and sounding bad. If anyone's got a link to the Real Story on hotness v less hot pickups, including their construction and impact on various sounds, I'd love to check that out. It seems all of the screaming shredder pickups have Vs, while the cool jazz pickups are IIs. My ES 390 w/mini HBs has IIs, and my LP 490/498 has a II in the neck, while the bridge came with a V (now a II). The Probuckers may be the answer to my quest, so thanks for the input. I'm clearly confused as to how the Probucker with its lower energy IIs can be the "hotter" pickup. |
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PS. Outside of single coil pickup instruments, I think you have a very good selection/flexibility with your guitars, but the missing piece might be a good tube amp. Last edited by Jaden; 10-08-2018 at 12:20 PM. |
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I found an interesting blog post from the seller of my G&L that seems to address the concerns I've raised in this thread.
Sounds like I'd prefer a low output humbucker (bolding below is mine): http://www.upfrontguitars.com/blog/2...-less-is-more/ For single coil loyalists, the humbucking — or dual coil — pickup has always been a conundrum. The extra power and fatter lead tone is attractive, but not at the expense of clarity and attack. |