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Hi Doug,
I still like it better with the little bit of reverb and the original, 'balanced' split. The 2% on one side sounded very wonky, especially on the slide. Too obvious on certain phrases, and in a piece that has a lot of movement covering a lot of low to high, it could really get in the way. Less is more. HE |
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Yep, probably delay is added by pitch shifter. Sound is shifted to the right on my headphones. Was the one channel pitch shifter examples added to the left track?
Later. Time to listen to the debate.
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yes, left track was shifted. I thought I heard some Haas effect even with both tracks shifted. I'll try a different pitch shifter and see if that helps.
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With the reverb removed I clearly prefer the original omni track over the pitch shifted version, even the bilateral one.
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it's interesting, a big sound, but not terribly natural. I thought Howard's tracks sounded very good, tho, so it may be a difference in my pitch shifter.
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ok, another stab, using the waves doubler for the pitch shift. The doubler has a modulation effect, which I'm setting to 0 depth, but I feel like I can still hear it
Doubler Pitch Shift
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Yeah, I like that one, too. One of the best stereo images I've ever gotten was from a Royer SF-12 stereo mic, blumlein, figure 8. But being a ribbon, it was rather lacking in highs. Stacking these two Mk8's gets close to simulating that setup, tho, with the Schoeps sound. Seems very natural, yet with a good sense of space and stereo image. I'll mess with that setup some more. I may get different sounds depending on where in the room I sit with these, with the figure 8 pattern.
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Quite possible. I've got a couple of extra punchy notes on this little ditty at the beginning. Howard's got a completely different sound and style, so it might have an entirely different effect on his tunes. Interesting, tho, another tool for the toolbox.
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No, I only had the stereo mics sent to the reverb. The added mid mic was dry. All I did between these mixes was unmute the mid track. Don't know why it would sound like more reverb, but there is the additional interaction between the un-pitch shifted mid and the pitch shifted stereo mics, so maybe that creates the feeling of ambience. Also we seem to have identified a few millisecond latency in the pitch shifter, so that would also add some effect.
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