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I'm getting there, I just can't get in and out of it quickly yet. The ring finger just isn't quite accurate enough or strong enough in that position yet. Give me another month or two.
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OK everybody in here gets an F
.................... and F chord, and an A for your participation. |
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For many years the F chord was synonymous with the F word but now not so much.
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I'm a relative newbie (1.5 years on acoustic) and F was a big problem for me for a while. To repeat what all the more experienced guys are saying - 1) Practice F shifts repeatedly and cleanly as possible 2) Good setup on your guitar, especially at the nut 3) Proper gauge strings for your strength and skill level
I see Bluegrass pickers using medium-heavy gauge strings playing and it makes me wince just to watch. Looks easy for them - wouldn't be for me.. I use Martin Silk & Phosphors. They sound like custom lights but are equal to Extra lights in gauge. (.11-.47) Keep practicing and it will come.
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I used to think it was impossible...
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I said this twice already, and I will say it a third time, this entire thread is predicated on a false assumption and a misguided conception that an F chord equals a full on six string barre chord starting on the first fret.
having played guitar for like forty years, from my experience, I can tell you that the F chord we are describing in this thread isn't even the most desirable form of the F chord. If you think about it, that F chord has three, yes three F notes in it; two C notes; and one A note. allow me to explain that three F notes are wholly unnecessary and are most certainly redundant and overkill, why play it that way? when you play a fully barred F chord you are playing three instances of the tonic and two instances of the 5th, the 3rd is drowned out and it's really just a busy and messy and unclear sound that you are producing. there is nothing manly or desirable about playing an F chord with this voicing. allow me to suggest two alternatives. now there are seven or eight or more alternatives, but here are two. Consider that fully barred F chord and now remove all the notes but those on the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th strings. play C on the second string first fret, A on the third string second fret, and F on the fourth string third fret. That is an F chord, and that is all that is required to play an F chord. And not only that, that F chord sounds better than the fully barred F chord. note also that you can tap into a second F note on the first fret of the first string, and a second C note is accessible on the fifth string. a second alternative is simply take a D chord and move it up to the fifth fret, now you are playing F. That's all. that's it. Last edited by RobertForman; 08-23-2013 at 02:02 PM. Reason: typo |
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My instructor started me on Bar Chords on the 5th fret or A. He told me if I practice the Major and minor chords on this fret that my fingers and hand would strenthen so I could play the F and G bar chords. He was so right. After working at it for three weeks I was able to get the sound to ring out of the barred F-chord. It was not easy and it took more time to get the chord to ring out consistantly. Now that is a thing of the past. Barred Chords needs to be practiced and worked at daily when they are first be learned. After that the next issue to over come is to move to a Barred chord from and open chord and from another barred chord consistanly like you would on open chords meaning G to D or C to A and so on. Learning to make the full barred Chords chime out takes time and practice and most of all patience.
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well, first of all, this thread isn't really about F chords in general, it's specifically about the barred E form that uses 6 strings. regardless of your feelings about the voicing (which i can relate to), it's a common chord. the E form is common as an E chord, an F chord, an F# chord, and every other major chord up the neck. often all 6 strings aren't strummed, but this chord form has been played countless times by countless players in countless songs. i haven't done the math and added it up, but that sounds like a lot. i do, however, appreciate your point. |
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if you added up all those F barre chords they would likely stretch from here to the moon.
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Does the F Chord CHALLENGE EVERYONE?
I probably had trouble when I first began playing, but I just play the first 5 strings (in the E shape), moved up 1 fret, barring the first 2 strings only. If I play a G (barre) Chord (using the E shape), that's not a problem for me.
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Good posture becomes more important the more you learn (I/'m still learning - aren't we all), Try this : Make an E shape with your 2,3,4 fingers, then move it u one fret, thumb over for the bass note and let your index finger cover the 1st & 2nd strings. do it until you are truly fed up with it. Then: make a four finger C chord, then move it up one string , again bringing your thumb over to the F on the 6th, and flattening your 1t finger over the 1st & 2nd. Again do it until you are sick and tired of it. Third - put your guitar on a stand. Learn t pick it up one handed by grasping the neck in such a way that it makes an F chord - -really ! - try it! |
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"I not only have a problem with the F, but I am having a time using my index finger to bar all the way across the fret board!" Maybe I'm mis-reading it. Sounds like he's having trouble with the simplest F w/a partial 2-string barre (F# shape) and creating barre chords as well. Perhaps the originator will give some clarity here?
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i am now the top poster in this thread, something i am not proud of. we need a subforum for the F chord. |
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all due respect to the OP, and I know he is off practicing, but one cannot control where these threads lead. but so far on this one, we are pretty true to the OP. I did notice a few people mentioned the infamous B-flat chord, but that's not really a guitar chord, it's a brass instrument chord. sometimes guitar players have to adapt and B-flat is a good example.
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Ok, I'll bite - Why isn't a Bb a guitar chord? I can play it on my guitar . . .
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