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Matt, I think you made the right decision. The only thing that held me back from buying the L1 and T1 was the price. I didn’t want to invest the $3,000 in something that I use infrequently. But, if I gigged as much as you do, I probably would use the L1 system too. Oddly enough, with all the various speakers I’ve bought in the last few years, I probably spent close to $3,000 experimenting. So, I could have bought the L1S, at the very least. :-). Live and learn.
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Also don't forget that you were very happy with the Line 6 L3T... and it did not prevent you for chasing unicorns. Somehow I think our money is consistently looking for a way to escape from the wallet. Cuki
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One thing to try is to power a USB mixer like Yamaha AG03 or AG06 with teh JBL eon one pro
The AG06 draws 500mA (in principle the JBL eon one pro USB feeds 500mA) and provides 60dB mic adjustable gain and 56dB on the Hi-Z (only 20dB on the AG03).
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That’s a terrific idea Cuki! Does it output to analog connections? And, yes, our money does consistently try escape from, our wallets. :-). Get back in there money! [Edit]. It appears that the AG06 has analog stereo/balanced output that would tie directly into Eon One Pro. Very cool idea.
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Very cool idea, using a usb powered mixer as a pre-amp.
------------ So, I got my second JBL One Pro. Musician's Friend really has terrible packers. They put it in a second box that was falling apart. They didn't pack the inside with anything but paper and it wasn't enough to make a difference. At least it did arrive OK, only 4 of the 8 foam corner corners of the foam damaged this time. No noise from the inputs on this one. Everything works and is the same in terms of gain. The tower pieces seem to fit a little more snug on this one. This is a good thing. As @martingitdave pointed out the Cloudlifter is too hot for the input. I can barely turn up the level on the input before it started to sound bad. This in mic mode. In Line mode it isn't much different than mic mode without a pre-amp (not enough gain). So I no longer think this type of pre-amp is a good solution for the gain issue of the JBL One Pro, at least with the e935. This unit's battery was not charged to any significant degree. It flashed all red a couple of times. I'll have to wait until it is fully charged to see if the high-pitched sound happens on battery only. It did on the other unit. The flap is still a little hard to get off like the first one, however on this second one the tabs that hook into the base don't push back in easily. Again, when plugged in, the mixer gets very very hot. Will burn you if you leave your hand on it too long. If you have cables plugged in they will be hot too. This makes me concerned about it's longevity, the battery, the PCB, my cables. It is quite disturbing. The deal breaker, the high-pitched sound is in this unit too. It is occurring more frequently on this one. I took video again and one of the videos was over 2 minutes long. When I called JBL about this noise on the first One Pro they told me to return it. This is a real bummer. |
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The high pitch is only when it works on battery? Maybe some DC-DC converter is dumping noise in the audio circuit... Probably a bad design.
I read elsewhere that the JBL eon one also could get very hot. The HK nano for example even with a class-D amp has a fan to cool the thing. I am afraid the thing would eventually burn. For $1500 I think there is too many problems to keep it.
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I'll be calling JBL again later today to see what they say. Maybe its coil whine as described in this video, except it doesn't happen all the time only intermittent, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7HsXHqtxrI |
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I've had the One Pro on for about 3 1/2 hours on battery. I haven't heard the high-pitched noise, but I didn't hear some random shhh noise that lasted a couple of seconds. This is on battery.
So my main concerns are that high pitched noise and the heat when plugged in. If you had it plugged in and was outside on a hot day it might just melt. It doesn't get hot when on battery. The mixer is warm, but not hot when on just the battery. Maybe the high pitched noise is the battery charging up. Who knows. I haven't had time to call JBL yet. |
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Exciting New PA Option: JBL EON ONE Pro
My first thought was that the noise and heat were related to charging the battery. After charging, you’ll have to let us know how it performs. Good luck!
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The problem is anytime you have it plugged in it is HOT even when the battery is done charging. The first one I left plugged in overnight to charge the battery and the mixer was still hot the next morning. That battery was over half charged when I received it on the first one. The second one the battery wasn't charged at all. What I'm concerned about is the longevity of the One Pro if it heats up this way.
If the heat and high-pitched noise are related to charging the battery then I guess the way to go would be to charge the battery and then just going unplugged when performing. That or buy something else ;-) I'm going to work with the One Pro with just the mixer alone to see if it will work for grab and go. For grab and go it would be my Journey OF-660 and my mic. Then I'll work it out with my VoiceLive 3x. It still sounds good and even, like the original One. So far, in the hours it has been on battery, I have not heard the high-pitched sound. Once the battery gets to about half I'll plug it back in and see what happens.
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With the smaller driver and slightly less power for the sub, I've been really curious to hear if they'd been able to keep the same amount of apparent bottom end at volume through the magic of either a better driver or electronics.
Let us know how they compare for bottom end and headroom when you get the chance.
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The headroom seems the same to me. It can get very loud if you give it a hot signal. But I will record some video/audio to compare with my Sony HDR-MV1 which has really nice mics for capturing the audio.
The bass is not as boomy, likely because of the smaller speaker, but the bass is still very present. It isn't as tight as I'd want it, but it could be the room I was in. I'll be able to do some better testing this weekend in a bigger living room that would simulate a cafe. My living room has very high ceilings and is open to the dining room and after that french doors to another room so I'll get to see how nice it sounds up close and further away. ----------------- So I let the battery go down to two red bars (there are 8 battery indicator bars) and it is now plugged in. It's been an hour and I haven't heard the high-pitched noise. What I am hearing though is intermittent scratchy/shhh noise - nothing is plugged into the inputs, all inputs are at 12 o'clock and the master is at 2 o'clock. That noise happened on battery too. Nothing so far more than 10 seconds. I have to go to band practice in 20 minutes so I'll unplug and plug it back in when I get back. The HK Audio Nano 608i has really intrigued me so I bought a demo unit from Full Compass Audio. No battery, but appears to have a much better mixer and I heard HK is no slouch when it comes to sound. Being able to do stereo is cool too since my Voice Live 3 can do stereo with the effects and harmony vocals. The Beat Buddy can also do stereo with the drums so that would be very cool. The 608i won't be here until Thursday of next week so won't be able to compare until then. |