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Old 06-12-2019, 08:46 PM
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I played a 12 string Yamaha dread for years as a kid. It went everywhere with me. Yes, Stairway to Heaven, Over the Hills and Far Away, Southern Man, Needle and the Damage Done, Old Man, Babe I'm going to Leave You, and others all played on a 12.

Finally I got to the point where double B's were driving me nuts. I seemed to spend more time tuning than playing (not a lot of disposable income to buy new strings when I should have) and those were the days of the tuning fork, sorry no Snarks back then.

Now, when ever I'm at GC and someone is playing a 12 string I just cringe and draw back like I saw a snake or something

My fingers hurt at the thought of playing one again.

I guess I'll have to buy an inexpensive one to get over my affliction. Kind of like a vaccine,
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I guess I'll have to buy an inexpensive one to get over my affliction.

... I see a small problem right there.

An inexpensive 12-string is more likely to endorse your affliction.

You need to go play some good ones first just to see/hear/feel what the inexpensive ones lack.

- Guild F-512
- Guild F-512 Maple ( previously named F-412 ) ... check out the demo clip below.
- Taylor 858 ... or all/any of the other Taylor Grand Orchestra 12's.


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Love the sound. Hate the hassle and the hand inflammation.
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:01 PM
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Anyone not like 12 strings?

What's not to like?


I keep mine tuned a half step down at D#. Old habits die hard. But while it does mean a little less tension on the guitar, it also means a little less stress on the hands too. And I can always use the G7th Newport compensated 12 string capo on the first fret to bring it up to standard without having to re-tune.

Folksinger Mike Cooney once said tuning a 12 string is like tuning a centipede. That doesn't seem to make sense until it hits you. And that was back in the days before digital tuners.

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The obvious answer is that everyone who is restringing a 12-string does not like 12-strings.

But then, McGuinn says he gets into like a trance state while changing the strings. Finds it calming and restful, he says. So, hey.
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The obvious answer is that everyone who is restringing a 12-string does not like 12-strings.

But then, McGuinn says he gets into like a trance state while changing the strings. Finds it calming and restful, he says. So, hey.
I enjpy changing strings on my guitars which are mostly slot-head type - but ...there is one .....



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I've just bought a cheap very old 12 string, and I don't like it. It doesn't stay in tune, and the 3rd course high string is irritating me. I'll try new strings, but I'm not hopeful. As a previous poster said, buying a cheap one isn't the best idea.
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I've never owned a 12 string. It has been years since I played one. I suppose it was good enough as it did stay in tune - and the guy tended to have good guitars. It sounded pretty cool but not like something I'd want to play all the time.
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The only 12-string I owned was a '60s Eko Ranger XII (bought used in the 1960s), and I loved it. Flatpicked tunes especially sounded good on it. I have considered another but I wonder just how much use it would get after the lovely jangly novelty wears off.
I've heard a couple of demos of the Guild F2512 which sound pretty good.
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Yep, they are not for me.
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They're a nice change and some things just don't sound right without one. I've had a few and eventually decided to sell them, only to realize I do like having one.

picked up a Guild (F-1512) last fall, while it desperately needed a good setup, once that was done, it plays great and it's a sonic canon.

I get a lot of use out of it.
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I've just bought a cheap very old 12 string, and I don't like it. It doesn't stay in tune, and the 3rd course high string is irritating me. I'll try new strings, but I'm not hopeful. As a previous poster said, buying a cheap one isn't the best idea.
I agree. I've been blessed to own some really nice 12-string guitars (Guild F-512, Taylor 455, Taylor 458-R and now my current 858.) A brief ownership of a much less expensive 12-string taught me a lesson - it's one of those cases when less is not more.

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... I see a small problem right there.

An inexpensive 12-string is more likely to endorse your affliction.

You need to go play some good ones first just to see/hear/feel what the inexpensive ones lack.

- Guild F-512
- Guild F-512 Maple ( previously named F-412 ) ... check out the demo clip below.
- Taylor 858 ... or all/any of the other Taylor Grand Orchestra 12's.
I agree and would add a Taylor 458 to the list...
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In my view 12-string guitars are double the pleasure.
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Maybe its because the 2 strings at GC are always out of tune and it's too much trouble to tune the darn thing just to try it, but most of the less expensive ones just sound like all strings, no body. You might as well play an autoharp!

The better ones are just too much. I played a Guild f1512 and I loved that one, but I was aftraid it would overwhelm me.
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I owned a very nice playing and sounding 12-string. The neck was awesome -- very slim for a 12-string, I set it up to play very easily. It was always tuned E to E with mediums and sounded great. The on board pickups were very natural sounding as well. I just did not like the sound of a 12-string. Also, as easy as mine played, it did require a little more effort to play cleanly. It drives me nuts to hear one played--whether by me or by others-- with muffled strings due to sloppy playing. I mostly played mine cleanly, but for all the more I played it, it had to go.
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