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11-23-2020, 06:41 PM
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11-23-2020, 08:25 PM
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There are several lower-tier acoustic guitars now sporting an arm bevel as well as many higher boutique offerings. If you have a local luthier available have them build you one of these: https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...d.php?t=579732
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11-23-2020, 08:41 PM
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11-23-2020, 08:56 PM
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I played a few body beveled acoustics, a low end Alverez, a Taylor Academy, and a high end Taylor and really loved the body bevel. In my case I wanted to build an un-bound mahogany body, so the arm bevel was really simple to incorporate.  You can see this in the Taylor Academy. It's obvious that since they were doing the Academy as an unbound guitar then they could throw in the body bevel as a free feature. I've been playing my 00 exclusively for the last year and I would have difficulty ever going back to a body without the bevel. Even on a smaller body instrument it still adds substantially to the comfort of playing.
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11-23-2020, 09:07 PM
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I designed and used a custom arm rest to use on my instruments, and the "arm bevel" is a great version of that feature for the guitar.
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11-24-2020, 06:30 AM
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11-24-2020, 07:05 AM
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My Lowden has a nice bevel and I find it very comfortable. I suspect the amount of additional comfort will be directly related to how much pressure you put on that edge with your arm.
I like mine, but my Martin doesn't have a bevel and I don't complain the whole time I'm playing that one. Getting down under dread size is a huge help for the shoulder.
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11-24-2020, 08:24 AM
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I have been experimenting with various new to me guitars in the last few years.
I recently picked up an Edwinson multiscale Performance which is a large Jumbo guitar. It has rib and forearm bevels and feels and plays like some of my OMs. I have a Yamaha SLG200N that I'm currently selling. When I originally purchased it i noticed that when I played it particularly with short sleeves, my forearm would start getting discomfort and get red marks from where the edge would cut into me. And to a lesser impact at the chest. I changed the countour to closer to a bevel on the upper arm piece (as it's detachable) the impact was very noticeable. Forearm discomfort was basically gone. Bevels basically make the guitar feel one to two sizes smaller although I can't speak as to how much they would help with shoulder discomfort. For disclosure I am 6'4 with gorilla arms. My Thompson T2 and various smaller body guitars I have don't have bevels and I don't find I miss them on the smaller instruments.
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11-24-2020, 10:36 AM
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I have two guitars with a wedge configuration, an OM size and the other a jumbo size at 16 inches. Both are the most comfortable to play I own. The smaller one has a slight wedge, not really noticable. The Yamamato jumbo is like playing a 00 despite it's size. The wedge is very pronounced
Both lack nothing in tone and projection. If I were to have a custom build I would go for a wedge over a bevel.
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11-24-2020, 10:59 AM
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Great distinction, Racerbob. A wedge makes the whole body thinner where the shoulder reaches over it. A bevel mitigates the sharp corner that digs into your forearm as it drapes across the upper bout. From context in some of the comments, it appears that people are mixing the terms.
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11-24-2020, 11:22 AM
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Dread player here. I have a bevel on one of my guitars and it really makes a difference in comfort, mostly due to the elimination of the sharp edge.
I can't answer if a bevel is going to help with your shoulder issues, it doesn't help mine, but it's still worth it for the above mentioned reason alone.
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11-24-2020, 11:41 AM
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I'd disagree with the premise that a bevel only helps the forearm.
Anything that moves the contact point for your right arm away from your shoulder and closer to your body is likely to make your shoulder more comfortable. Anything that allows you to need to use less tension in your shoulder muscles to keep your arm and guitar in position also should help. Basically I think all of the following will have some impact on how much shoulder strain you have: Lower bout width Lower bout width at upper edge of arm Lower bout depth Waist width Angle of the surface where your arm makes contact Contours of the guitar for how closely it fits to your body and how that impacts the angle it sits on your body. All the variables that go into soundhole and bridge locations and how that will change where your right hand wants to play The finish material and back shape and contour and how that impacts how much pressure you need to apply to keep it in position Great thing is there are so many solutions out there now that one of them is likely to find something for people that works and that is likely going to be down to each individual finding the right combo of things that work for them. Quote:
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