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Old 07-14-2018, 05:17 PM
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One more reason to avoid going to work....
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You could make him a "project" befriend him and help him see what he's doing (wrong). Be his mentor.

Two of the worst employees I had turned out to be great workers and good friends with a little encouragement and guidance.
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sounds like a conversation with human resources is in order.

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sounds like a conversation with human resources is in order.
Bit early for that, I think. Sounds like someone who's maybe not at his best in new environments, and is struggling a little with finding his place.

Or he could just be a jerk.
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Bit early for that, I think. Sounds like someone who's maybe not at his best in new environments, and is struggling a little with finding his place.

Or he could just be a jerk.
The new guy is in his 50's so...... Probably the latter

I don't care all that much, I'll just do what I do best - keep my mouth shut and work hard; that's worked well for me for over 30 years .

It's good to vent once in a while though
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I don't know, I think we can learn a lot from how folks did things.


During my working career, a new guy would come in periodically, and immediately start offering up his ideas and plans how he could improve just about everything...

My response was to take him to one of the old timers who would patiently explain to him why his innovative idea hadn't worked the last few times an eager young hot shot had thought of it...
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When managing people like this it usually ended up with me giving short explicit direct orders. If you had a discussion with them they always talked so much they had their own understanding of your request. It gave them wiggle room for misunderstanding directions and not accomplishing things. I don't know what kind of work is involved here but I don't give people like this a high percentage of a chance of lasting. They always think they know what's best for the process or the company. When a know it all got to overbearing I'd tell them it's unfortunate that the people who know what's best for the company decided not to get into management.
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During my working career, a new guy would come in periodically, and immediately start offering up his ideas and plans how he could improve just about everything...

My response was to take him to one of the old timers who would patiently explain to him why his innovative idea hadn't worked the last few times an eager young hot shot had thought of it...
Yes, talk to the experienced folks. But don't say that it won't work. Just here is what we tried and why it didn't work then. That gets them working on the right hurdles sooner. It's obviously a good idea as many others have thought of it, we just haven't figured out how to get it to work yet. Maybe they can, maybe technology bhas progressed enough, maybe cost has come down, etc. I've seen several "impossible" projects completed by the new guy. I've seen other projects killed early because of previous experience. It works both ways.
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Bit early for that, I think. Sounds like someone who's maybe not at his best in new environments, and is struggling a little with finding his place.

Or he could just be a jerk.
Sounds like perfect management material to me!!!!
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Bit early for that, I think. Sounds like someone who's maybe not at his best in new environments, and is struggling a little with finding his place.

Or he could just be a jerk.
i didn't mean about the new hire. i meant about the people who do the hiring.

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Thought you were talking about a much younger eager type , but over 50 gives different perspective . He's simply a motor mouth and will never be cured. Seems when wife & I go out to dinner 50% of the time I get stuck by one who is still yacking non stop while eating / I consider that a serious flaw in the person's makeup .
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sounds like a conversation with human resources is in order.

play music!
Over something like this???
I'd say grow a thick skin and deal with it.
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sounds like a conversation with human resources is in order. play music!
Please explain why. Why would this have anything to do with benefits or enforcing some personnel rule, policy or procedure. I fail to see how the irritating personal communication habits of a co-worker has any relevance to HR, but I would like to hear why you think this should be a policy or procedure situation.
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Hey, I worked with surgeons in the OR for over thirty years. Ain't nobody anymore that irritates me.
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If the guy is over 50 and hasn't yet picked up on people's body language and facial expressions as he is droning on, there probably isn't a cure.

A managerial "intervention" to point out that he is spending too much time talking and needs to concentrate on his work more might help. He is new and probably wants to keep his job, so he might try to change his habits to keep management happy.
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