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10-28-2018, 03:02 AM
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- Usually less expensive - Heavier - Does not produce whatever the tonewood qualities are to as great an extent. -Stronger Solid: - More expensive - Lighter, sometimes considerably - Reflects tonal qualities of ths body wood much better - More prone to damage from impact There are and have been some guitars made that defy these generalizations. Many laminated back and sides guitars sound quite good. I think how lamination is done makes a very big difference. Three companies that do it well are Taylor, Seagull and its siblings (Godin ) and Yairi. There are others. There can be other differences in build quality depending on brand such as fret work, quality of woods used and finish. Very low end guitars use the least expensive materials and may have poorest craftsmanship. 
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10-28-2018, 05:03 AM
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No hard and fast rules here other than to trust your own ears. A well designed and built guitar with laminate back and sides can still be a great guitar. The Yamaha FG / FS range is just one such example.
No 2 guitars are exactly the same. There are lots of great all solid guitars out there and some stinkers too. Taylor have some silly prices on their lam b/s guitars in the UK and they're really nothing special. Much better guitars available for the same or less money. Yamaha, Martin and Faith offer superior all solid models for less than the 100 series and GS mini series. Gazza
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10-28-2018, 05:19 AM
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If I felt that 'brand X, model B with solid back&sides' was a little too gentle, not quite enough focus, I would try 'brand X, model B with laminate back&sides', or in the same line of thought 'brand X, model B cutaway, laminate or solid back&sides'. But I'm only working with my ears, so there it is.
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10-28-2018, 06:05 AM
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10-28-2018, 06:36 AM
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10-28-2018, 06:41 AM
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I've laid hands on many laminate b/s guitars that could toe to toe with solids. If it's built well, the laminated back and sides is nothing more than a note on the specs sheet.
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10-28-2018, 07:09 AM
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Laminated can be high quality or low quality, in the first case it is done because for instance for using beautiful wood in a instrument with a decent price.
IMO there is not much difference in the sound of the guitar in this case, I had a Yairi YW800 that was as good as my Martin but when I had to sell the the shop said they could not offer me much as it wasn't made of "real" wood. Thus we had an argument on the matter, but this is the perception of a lot of guitarists today.
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10-28-2018, 07:27 AM
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laminated v solid back and sides
I like solid tops, but don’t mind laminated (or HPL, or Ovation style plastic) back and sides. I practice mostly with a solid wood because acoustically I do hear a difference. For gigging with a pickup and a PA, that subtle difference is gone and I’d rather have a little more ruggedness.
I practice with an all solid Martin D15M but gig with an HPL back and sides Martin DX-1. Both of them have Schertler AG-6/S-Mic pickups and while the D15M sounds a little nicer acoustically, they sound almost exactly the same amplified. Both instruments have nice setups. Last edited by lkingston; 10-28-2018 at 07:37 AM.
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10-28-2018, 07:47 AM
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10-28-2018, 07:59 AM
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Yairi developed special methods for making laminate woods for guitar that are as good as solid wood. As I recall they claimed it's actually better because the results are more predictable. Since that time the quality of guitars with solid top and laminate back and sides has vastly improved. I have a Blueridge BG60 that is a copy of a 1940's Gibson J45. It's a darn fine copy and it sounds as good as the best J45 I've played, even though the back and sides are laminate.
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