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Wow sad but inevitable. Froggy Bottom guitars are some the best sounding guitars I've played!! I can't say enough good about how they sound. They are one of those brands that blend vintage tone really well with modern tone like no other. Usually the only other brand I place on the same level is Goodall.
I'm glad the FB brand will continue on!! I've been wondering what the plan is for Richard Hoover at SCGC.
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I suspect the starting point on these Anniversary guitars will be in the ballpark of 30K base, and then higher depending on the custom options you want added, so I imagine there will be some of them that will be optioned out at 40K to 50K range. Definitely worth it if you have the loot to spend. duff Be A Player...Not A Polisher |
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This was inevitable.
There are others who can make guitars as good as Michael Millard, but no one who can make a better guitar. The best Froggy Bottom guitars have a true magical shimmer to them that always make my knees weak. The 50th anniversary guitars are going to be insane. I love the fact that they bringing back the engraved ivory scrimshaws for these guitars! I'm confident Michael is leaving FB in good enough hands (sic). |
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Will the post Millard's bring more or less? Think: what happened at Collings?
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Changes in thought, concept, philosophy may occur. New minds running the company but construction quality changes? Probably not. |
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Ha. No. The reason people who can afford it, can afford it, is that they ask how much and don't spend money that's either unwise or unnecessary.
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However, if the luthiers taking over the Froggy Bottom operation can produce guitars with identical attributes -- which, after all these years, is likely -- then there may be no difference in price. |
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From what I remember Michael Millard for the last 20+ years has been involved in building pretty much every aspect of the box of all the instruments. He had other guys that did things like setup, finish and inlays but as far as the Froggy sound it was Michael. That being said I think Eric Goodenough has been with Michael building since the 80s. The brand will be in good hands.
I have a feeling a lot of the people posting on this thread have never played a Froggy Bottom guitar. Pickup a red spruce over rosewood H12 or D12 then come back and we'll hear the wows and rave of the glories of the Froggy Magic tone heard!! I have nothing but complete respect for this brand. All of the 10+ or so I've played have been very special instruments. Any guitar builder that can maintain an average price for their guitars like Froggy has, doesn't have anything to prove for sure.
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My understanding was that the other workere did other parts of th build but Millard was solely responsible for the voicing and tbe necks if my memory serves me right.
If this is true or still true, then there would be a possibly huge effect if millard retires - you don't replace 50 years of voicing experience so easily. It could even be argued that the tonality of the froggy IS Michael Miller's sound so how do you replace that:?
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So pretty much no one has seen a price which was my point from the beginning. BTW, asking what something costs does not mean you can't afford it, just curious as I could not find it anywhere and the OP and the second or third poster commented on price and I was curious.
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I was commenting that the regular production guitars increased in price (about 10%, all listed on the website) despite Michaels retiring. I don’t believe the Anniversary guitars are priced yet. Personally, given how many hundreds of Frogs over the years were made with scrimshaw and Carson engraving, I don’t find them that compelling. Collectors may differ.
As far as Michael’s involvement, I can say from my own build last year that he selected the top (a heavy winter grain) to pair with the b/s, bridge size, etc and constructed the whole box. When you bought a Frog, Michael’s expertise and experience was always the main selling point, not the facility, tools, special woods, or anything else. I don’t know how involved Bill, Dana, Preston or Richard were/are in the actual construction of their guitars, and at their typical prices, I probably wouldnt care. But I think probably most buyers spending over $10k are buying not just sound but a luthier they know and have confidence in, especially in a custom build.
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