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Thank you Doug, I really appreciate it. Your mix sounds better than mine.
1) That's true, my levels are on 0 and raw tracks are just without life. Not bright, clear, but very muddy. I have to rise them up on 4 or even 6dB to get more alive sound.. 2) Hm, I always check tuning before recording and seemed tuned :/ However, I don't think, the guitar is a problem here. It's Furch, new Yellow series, so it is really good sounding instrument on its own. Wood on the guitar produces more darker sound, that is true. It is not spruce, but red cedar and indian rosewood. 3) Well, the pick-up system is L.R. Baggs Anthem. So it has microphone + piezo. What you can hear, is about 30 (mic) / 70 (piezo). But I have to admit, the recorded track is just not good. Maybe I'll try rather piezo next time. 4) OK, I'll try it as you say, also in different room and let see, what will happen. I'll let you know as soon as I'll have time to record it. One thing: I don't know, if it is just my feeling or what, but when I play before press the record button, the signal is strong and bright. But when I finish my recording and hear the results, the tracks are without life and very narrow and thin. Maybe is the problem with my software settings, I'm using Cubase. 5) Well, I play sort of style like that guy in the video. Sometimes percussion too, but mainly this style. |
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in any case, my guess is that you can improve by addressing room acoustics and mic placement. In cases where we can't control the room acoustics much, close micing can sometimes overcome the issue.
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2) The tuning is actually open G minor chord, so there are many open strings going on.
3) You're right. Pick-up can never beat a proper microphone, that is true. I bought it mainly for live playing. 4) Yes, I'm listening over my headphones. Mostly for being in right time and BMP in metronome. I'll take a look on settings in Cubase and see, if I can change it somehow. 5) Sorry for mistunderstanding. I posted his video because of clarity and brightness of the sound. In the description he says, that he use Rodes NT5, which is not so far from my Rodes M5. That's why I wonder about his sound. Honestly, my problem with recording is a long run. I'll try that position, you're talking about and take an inspiration from your photo. Then I'll let you know, what I've got. And two questions: 1) If I pan AKG and Lewitt to L and R, shouldn't be there something in C? I always though, that usually is it L, C and R. Just curious. 2) Maybe stupid question, but maybe I could try to crank up gain on the audio interface (Steinberg UR44). I usually stop with turning the knob, when I hear noise and humming. So all knobs are set to position, when I hear almost nothing or very minimum of noise and humming in my headphones. I know, the more right, the more gain, but I also know, that noise can be very disturbing element, especially, when I play slow parts of parts with long breaks. Last edited by Larsis; 11-20-2018 at 10:47 PM. |
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I really think you have software setting issues that are creating the mono sound. Check each setting carefully. Listen to the raw recording first checking for stereo before adding post recording tweaks to it.
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So I recorded new materials today and here are the results: New room, new mic placement and distance + there is a blanket behind me (someone told me, it helps). Raw tracks without any effects.
Now I know, where the problem was. When I choose multitrack recording, then all tracks are in mono. Now I set a different setup from menu. So now it is Stereo Rode L and Rode R and Lewitt in C (mono). https://soundcloud.com/luk-leng-l/new-record/s-odptR And here is my previous record (the one, we're discussing about). I left AKG and Line and now it is the same. Stereo Rode L and R and Lewitt in C (mono). https://soundcloud.com/luk-leng-l/old-record/s-uVNKR It definitely sounds more alive than before. |
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A couple things:
-try to set up your mics so they're as far from a wall behind them as possible - unless the wall is acoustically treated - a blanket, or a few of them, would do better behind the mics than behind you. - I doubt you need a mic in the center. all the best recordings I''ve heard use just two, one panned hard left and the other hard right. |
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After you record, how do you listen to your recordings, e.g., what monitors or headphones, etc.?
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Here is a bit of waveform from your track. Note R and L (top and bottom) tracks are the same which = mono.
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Hm, I don't know then. I think, I have to figure it out by myself. Trying different mic positions, room and settings till I get the right sound for my ears. However, thanks a lot for all advices and help guys, I really appreciate it, especially to Doug. Three pages of this topic gave me more information than a half a year of searching on the internet.
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Larsis, even if you set up your Rødes stereo you still have to pan the left track sharp left and the right track sharp right to achieve the stereo image. At least that is how I dow it.
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I know, it should be panned, but here's the thing. I choosed stereo setup and Rode L set to Stereo Left (it really comes from the left on my headphones) and Rode R to Stereo Right (the same, from the right). I didn't pan it manually. So it seems, it should be in stereo.
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Just for basic knowledge in order to get true stereo output (obviously you have to have two different sources (mics or picup and mic etc.) and you have to make certain your inputting two different signals from the two sources into either a stereo track that (has two inputs) and is panned hard left and hard right.... or...... input each of the two mics/sources, each into it own mono track and pan them hard left and right
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