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Old 09-11-2021, 04:12 PM
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Default NGD - 1942 J-35...

I've gotten several guitars in the last few years. Two good d28 style Martins,
a Madrose Kopp AJ and a couple of tired old Gibsons. Mmmm. Gibsons.

The Martins are gone. I'm unsure about the Kopp's future at my house.

As I have saved towards the ability to get a J-35 I began talking (or
trying to talk) to people who had them for sale. None local that I ever
ran into, so I had to talk on the innernet.

I'm used to my friendly local shop, some people might think this is silly,
but I wanted and expected my on-line J-35 purchase to net me a good
guitar and also be a fun experience. I mean, those guys over at Acoustic Music
Works where I got the Kopp were fun to deal with. Anywho... some places
with J-35s flat out ignored my inquiries, one place was kind of rude, and
then... Picker's Supply in Virginia a pleasant place to do business.

The guitar I got from them has had a ton of work done to the top. I was
kind of worried it might explode...



It plays and sounds GREAT, though. There's a buzz when I capo at
the 4th and when I play a "Todd Rundgren Amaj7" chord at the 5th...



(all?) the work to the top was done in 1996 by John Boulding of North
Carolina...



The guitar appears to have really new frets, unless John Boulding put
them on there 25 years ago and nobody has played the guitar since.
I'm almost certain a slight bit of dressing of the first fret or so will
cure the buzz. The buzz comes from the low E string between
the capo and the nut, or between the 5th fretted low E and the nut
on the Todd chord. When Mike Weems, the luthier, can fit me in he'll
know. The Picker's Supply guys say this J-35 has been a shop favorite
while they've had it, so I'm pretty sure this guitar hasn't sat around unplayed
with new frets for 25 years.

It has a wider and thicker neck than my 57 Country Western. I love the
neck. And not just the carve, the neck is in really good shape for an old
guitar.



It has an original ebony nut...



Here's one place on the top where it looks like there's a
whole new strip of wood...



As you can imagine, there's numerous cleats in there...



The owner of my friendly local shop, The Acoustic Cellar
in Clarksville Georgia, has some pretty good
personal guitars at home. I called him up last night and his
wife brought his personal J-35 to the shop today, he once
told me it was his favorite Gibson. I brought mine in and
we all sat around and played both of them. I still like mine
a whole lot! I'm jealous that his doesn't look like it might
explode though...



The fellow on the left is Luke, he works there. The other fellow,
Jay I think (my wife thinks "Jake"), can play and sing up a storm!

While I was there, a fellow brought in a 1938 D-28. The guys
in the picture above melted (in a good way)... I got to play
it too.

Here luke has picked a 64 d-18 off the wall to play along with
the 38 d-28...



The d-28 had these unusual (to me) tuners, I didn't take
a picture of them, but I think these are them...



Today has been a pretty fun day ...

-Mike

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What a great story! Thanks for sharing!
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Old 09-11-2021, 04:36 PM
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Man, that’s awesome. Vintage guitars really are a treat. Bone dry tone with tons of Mojo!
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Great story, great guitar. Congrats and enjoy....!
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Congrats, great post and enjoy that guitar forever.
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Great find! Enjoy.
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Cool old guitar, Mike! Great story! Congratulations, too!

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Well, it certainly has lived. And I LIKE guitars that have lived; they have stories to tell. I hope you'll keep it in your family. A guitar like that, I would never sell. But that's just me.

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A war time Gibson! I wonder where it has been? It seems to have certainly had quite a life!

The guitar deserves you to keep its story going. I'd be heading out to the pub and other local clubs with that little workhouse. What a wonderful find. Enjoy!
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Seems like such an incredible experience. Very nice story. This guitar is gorgeous. That’s what I’d call a « played in feeling guitar »!
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..you dog!!!….if I had a holy grail it would be a vintage J-35…great NGD write up…congrats on snagging a nice one…
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Very cool. If there is a "Holy Grail" Gibson for me it would be a '35 Trojan or a J35. But as I have played a 1942 J50 for decades I have had my sights set on an earlier guitar with the non-scalloped tone bars preferably one with the three tone bars. But this is what I find confusing. A 1942 J35 would have had scalloped bracing as Gibson adopted that scheme sometime in 1941. So the scrawl inside the guitar about converting it to such is confusing. Possibly yours was a leftover J35 body built with two un-scalloped tone bars onto which Gibson slapped a newer style neck with the rounded heel. Given it is a Gibson not without the realm of possibility.
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So the scrawl inside the guitar about converting it to such is confusing.

John Boulding is a second generation luthier and I found that he is still
going strong ... I sent him the bridgeplate composite image in an email...

"I've worked on too many to remember them all haha. I'm glad you are loving it!"

There's no (visible) FON or serial number on the neck block. I don't know
what to think or how anyone knows it is a 1942. I know about ebony
nuts on being on some 1940s, 1941s and 1942s, but what I know fits in a thimble.

This is a good site: http://www.j-35.com/index.php/j-35-registry/

I don't know if John Boulding "converted" anything. The history of why
all that stuff had to be done to the top is lost, I guess. I guessed that
all that drastic work included having to make some new braces and he
wrote down that he scalloped them because that's how they were
supposed to be?

I'll take more better inside pictures when I change the strings. The Picker's Supply
guys put on a new set before they shipped it. I usually change one string at a time,
but I'll take them all off and be able to more precisely place my camera around
in there - without stressing the fragile looking wood inside the rosette. I'm going
to be asking the luthier I bring it to about the buzz and about making it as stable
as it can be. As it is I'd be afraid to even put one of those inside-the-sound-hole
tuners in there. I've been using my old Snark on it, but I hate rooting around in
my case for it every time I tune...

-Mike
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So the scrawl inside the guitar about converting it to such is confusing.

John Boulding is a second generation luthier and I found that he is still
going strong ... I sent him the bridgeplate composite image in an email...

"I've worked on too many to remember them all haha. I'm glad you are loving it!"

There's no (visible) FON or serial number on the neck block. I don't know
what to think or how anyone knows it is a 1942. I know about ebony
nuts on being on some 1940s, 1941s and 1942s, but what I know fits in a thimble.


-Mike

The luthier I used when I lived in Kansas was Keith George who was also second generation. He is the guy who restored my '42 J50.

The bracing though really comes into play whether there are two or three tone bars, whether they are scalloped or not, the angle of the X brace, how close it is to the soundhole, and such. But you would have to know a whole lot more about J35s than I do. We are talking a Willi Henkes type of knowledge here. And dealing with a guitar which may or may not have all of its its original bracing would take one heck of an experienced eye to sort out.
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As I said, the easiest way I know to ID a '42 would be the neck heel.

Mine has what the j-35 registry page calls a French heel...



The j-35 registry page shows these on 1940 through 1942...

You mentioned Trojans... I played this pristine Trojan about a month ago...



No wonder some of these bursts get so checked, that thing had a real thick
coat of (beautiful) lacquer on it. And a really pronounced V neck. Sure was
nice though. I'd have to get used to that neck. And monthly payments ...

-Mike
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