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My point was that there is a much higher percentage of this activity lately
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I’ll probably purchase one more guitar and call it good. Most likely a
00 or 000-18 which appear to going for $500-$600 more than early pandemic time frame. I’ll almost certainly buy new knowing that it’s not the shop gouging me but rather a reflection of what they have to pay for it. Just my opinion. |
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My experience is quite the opposite. If my last two "high end" guitars sell for asking, then it would be the greatest % losses Ive ever had. This after over 150 sales, so I dont lack data points. Bottom line, its been an AGF favorite pastime since inception to complain/comment/discuss about perceived high prices.
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Although I'm no economist and my comments are clearly over-simplified, this is really just a function of supply and demand. Certain commodities became (and continue to be) scarce ever since the beginning of the pandemic, guitars among them. I spoke to a prominent dealer the other day who told me that the orders he's placing with Martin right now are for 2023 shipment.
Our friends at Acoustic Center in Melbourne are selling Collings dreadnaughts for $10,000 and still can't keep them in stock. Supply and demand. Try buying a new mountain bike at a discount from Specialized, Giant, Trek, Santa Cruz or Cannondale right now. Try buying an aircooled Porsche 911, in any model year from 1963-1998. Try a gallon of gas. I wish it was otherwise. scott memmer Last edited by Charmed Life Picks; 11-28-2021 at 09:51 PM. |
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Right now seems to be a sellers market. In 3-5 years if the rate of estate sales increase exponentially as many reports predict, this would become a buyers market.
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I have seen some ridiculous prices as well, but I have also been fortunate enough to trade into a guitar that I anticipate will be with me for the rest of my life in my 67 D18.
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Yes - not talking "general market trends" or economics here. I'm talking simply about a MUCH higher percentage of used guitars being listed at almost double of what they are going to realistically sell for. It's that simple.
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The guitars I am referring to are NOT selling - so only one party is "agreeing".
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I find this is only an aggravation due to unrelenting GAS.
I see many beautiful and excellent guitars, used, new, boutique, whatever, for prices I would never consider for a guitar based on my income (which allows a fair bit for luxuries), spending tolerance, skill level and rational use/need. However…I WANT THEM! So it is a struggle. When I do upgrade from my wonderful and more than adequate current acoustic which I love, I will look at the market and I think there will be some reasonably priced options given my modest needs. I see a lot of guitars that I consider very nice at reasonable deals in the $1k-$2k or so range that do seemed priced fairly. |
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I think Todd is being too diplomatic about this... LOL... I tend to be more straight to the point... This discussion isn't about a rare Olson or something of that matter... and really its not about price gouging either.... People can ask what they want... but lets not take up all the space in the for sale section and waste our time with a guitar you decided to resell for a $1000.00 more than when you purchased it new last week...
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I have noticed some folks asking some pretty aggressive prices, mostly on Reverb, but also here. Typically it seems to be someone who just bought a guitar at MAP and isn't mentally prepared to take a 20%-30% hit.
I also think that buyers of new guitars are paying more, due to the fact that the heavy discounts have largely dried up. For example - You used to be able to get a D18 Standard all day long for $1850 from Maury's, or Jon Garon, or a few others. Those guitars would sell on the used market for around $1600 with the original buyer losing $250. Now from what I understand you are pretty much paying MAP when you buy a new guitar. Maybe a 10% discount which gets you to around $2200, but I don't think anyone is selling them as cheap as they used to. I don't really keep up with the market for the $5K+ single luthier builds so I don't really know what the 'fair' price on those is, but they are typically 'one offs'. Vintage guitars have certainly exploded, but there aren't that many of them for sale at a given time, so that makes some sense. I'd imagine that the same is largely true for the high end single luthier builds. I also very much agree with the folks that say you can't really 'price gouge' on something as discretionary as a guitar.
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