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01-08-2004, 06:50 PM
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Mapletrees can you help me with some options:
Dminor F and then what??be nice now I am somewhat musically challenged!!
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01-09-2004, 07:47 AM
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michaelmag, I'm not mapletrees, but . . .
Dm F G Bb gives you "House of the Rising Sun" Well, it's really Dm F G Bb Dm F A7 Dm F G Bb Dm A7 Dm
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01-09-2004, 06:32 PM
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Thanks Larry thay gives me something to work with
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01-11-2004, 04:38 PM
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well.....I... ...I don't know what to think about that good of you to notice that ascending line of notes.... here'd be a way to keep that line of notes going up... starts sounding like some song by the band Queen to me... C/E as x7555x 2 beats then E aug as x7655x 2 beats then the Amin/E as x7755x 2 beats but then keep the ascending line going up on the 4th string to the Bb (same note as A#) by playing a C7 as 8 10 8 9 10 10 2 beats.... the C7 wants to move up by a perfect fourth... so then move up to F as x 8 10 10 10 8 4 beats followed by Fmin as x 8 10 10 9 8 for 4 beats and then back to C or maybe for the last F to Fmin do this instead F as x8756x Fmin6 as x8676x or maybe x86768 followed by the C at 8 10 10 9 8 8 or whatever....
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01-11-2004, 08:10 PM
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E/Am-C-D-F E/Am-C-E sheesh! now I am gonna have to relearn it! just when I was getting good at it, too! ;p
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01-12-2004, 11:08 AM
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freestyle,
if you wanna play it in that key, it's no problem. it is the same chord progression, just in Am rather than Dm. if i wanna sing along, i need to play it in Dm.
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01-13-2004, 12:49 PM
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Favorite cord projection is the G - F/G - F - D (? I'll hang my head and admit I'm still working thru mapletree's material, not sure on those) sequence that opens the Stone Temple Pilot's song, Plush. That sounds so great played accoustically, and there are some interesting variations throughout the song.
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01-14-2004, 08:51 AM
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Thanks Ninjato !! I really like this progression and have been having some fun with it in the evenings when the house is quiet ! Regards, DeadHead
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01-15-2004, 09:36 AM
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just another twist on the minor blues 'thang'....(I'm recalling this one from a blues-jam-a-long book/cd I had long ago....its name is escaping me now....has a kind of corny romance-novel-looking cover...it is a very good book, no real instruction, but good and varied blues progressions to jam with, very good examples of soloing...and good examples of rhythm playing with little partial chords...)
experiment with here and there anticipating (playing some of the chords either a half-beat or whole beat earlier than written)...adds 'hop' but makes things look unnecessarily (sp?) messy when written... Gmin7/// - Gmin7/// - Gmin7/// - Gmin7/ Db13/ Cmin7/// - Eb13/// - Gmin7/// - Gmin7/// Am7b5/// - D7b9///- Gmin7/// - D7#5#9/// instead of the Am7b5 to D7b9, maybe stick in Eb7/// to D7/// michaelmag...I see what you wrote.... do you know it's just a teensy-weensy bit of an open-ended question? con't...
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01-15-2004, 12:56 PM
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michaelmag...
do you know (understand) that in the key of F, Fmaj is I Bbmaj is IV Cmaj is V (C7 is V7) and Dmin in the relative minor of F? any of that stuff...? those chords 'go together'... just like you're probably used to seeing (C-ing! ha it's a joke...lame, Daddy, lame...)....just like you're probably used to seeing songs in the key of C where Cmaj (I), Fmaj (IV), Gmaj (V), and Amin 'go together'.... yes, no...? anyways...try to run F, Bb, C, and Dmin together in different ways...see what you come up with....try chugging them together as power chords, too and try to throw in little moves around triad shapes... let's say you're doing plain ol' F chord 2 beats C chord 2 beats Dmin chord 4 beats... instead of playing a plain old F chord you could 'play out of' these triad inversion shapes... x 12 10 10 x x or xxx211 (same as x x x 14 13 13) or xx756 take that last shape let all notes ring... finger the entire triad shape and play this simple 'fill' lick (I can only write out something simple....you could make the following lick as Hendrix-y as you want with slides, hammer-on's, pull-off's, grace notes, re-ordering of notes, and funkier rhythm....do something simple first...) play xx7xxx on beat 1 let ring and play xxx56x on the & of 1 play xxx76x on beat 2 xxx56x on the & of 2 and now do the same thing out of a C triad instead of playing the C chord... here's a C triad...(with it's 3rd in the bass) x755xx play x7xxxx on beat 3 let ring xx55xx on the & of 3 xx75xx on beat 4 xx55xx on the & of 4... again, let it all ring, start simply, do it well, then get funky...(and do it all over the neck...) then just plop on the Dmin chord at x57765 back to the key of F.... the basic chords in the key of F are 'supposed' to be... Fmaj or Fmaj7, Bbmaj or Bbmaj7, Cmaj (and C7) and Gmin (or Gmin7), Amin (or Amin7) and Dmin but there's nothing wrong with playing Dm to F to Gmaj (or G7) to A7 and back to Dmin....(similar to what was happening in House of the Rising Sun) there's many many many ways to go... you can make a pretty little progression walking a bass through the F maj scale... try picking across these notes (as arpeggios...low to high...count "one and two and" on each chord) xx3211 - F (again, pick across the chord) then xx2211 - F/Ebass then xx0211 - Dmin7 then x3x211 F/C then x1x331 Bb x0x211 F/A 3xx331 G,o8b...huh? Gmin7...spazzed out... then x3x310 C7 then 133211 F... could you play out that sequence of moves (at least very similar moves) up the neck starting with this F chord x8756x ? anyways...again...all the moves of music can be done in the key of F just like you see them in other keys... on F? need to get back to Dmin? play F to Cdim7 to Dmin....just like anyother key.. do F/Cbass as x33211 C#dim7 as x4535x and then Dmin7 as x57565 again, just like any other key...a common move is the I and the vi chord linked together by the V chord with it's 3rd in the bass... for example C to G/B to Am....you've probably seen that as x3201x C to x2000x or x2003x G/B to x0221x or x02210 Am well, with F (I) and Dm (vi) the linking chord would be the Cmaj chord with it's 3rd (the note E) in the bass xx3211 or x8756x F to xx2010 or x7555x C/E to xx0231 or x57765 Dmin... etc..etc..etc...
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01-18-2004, 12:37 PM
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what about the progression from Santana's tune Europa (Earth's Cry Heaven's Smile) ?
the lead in notes... then Bb7sus4/// - Bb7/// - Ebmaj7/// - Abmaj7///- G7sus4/// - G7/// - Cmin7 land on a Cmaj7 next time around and ii-V in Eb...
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01-18-2004, 12:51 PM
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another twist on the minor blues thing...
I think this was in that same book...it is a good one... if you've been eating too many pork chops and feeling a bit out of shape...... you can just shred the cover... might not have the same exact progression he had... do as a slow 3/4 time... Cmin// just 3 beats... Cmin/Bb // (that's Cmin with Bb in the bass for 3 beats...bad notation!) Abmaj7// G7// Cmin // Cmin/Bb // Abmaj7 // G7#5 // Abmaj7// G7// Cmin7// Cmin7// Ab7// G7// then for the last 2 measures (6 beats) some combination of ******edit edit edit....brainshnort....some variation on Cmin and a minor ii-V (Cmin to Emin7b5 and Adominant).....sorry about that....edit edit edit... you'd want a Dmin7b5 to some Gdominant there - a minor ii-V going to Cmin....end of edit**** another edit....***which probably means in the book he does it in the key of Dminor!****....sorry about that...end of edit... bbq chips!
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01-18-2004, 03:59 PM
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this is cool......
going " one two-one two on each chord" c7 b7 e7 a7 d7 g7 c7 g7 then into..... 1 2 3 4 on each, as in I-IV-V : c7 F13 c7 g13 and go in circles with it  this place is cool for chords,check it out
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01-18-2004, 04:16 PM
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What about the Stormy Monday blues...
in G, G7/// - C7/// - G7/// - G7/// C7/// - C7/// - Gmaj7 / Am7/ - Bmin7 / Bbmin7 / Amin7/// - D7/// and turnaround...I7-VI7-ii-V7 G7 / E7 / - Amin7 / D7 /
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01-18-2004, 04:39 PM
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fact: the 3rd of I is just a half-step below the root of IV
so, example in key of E... here's an E chord 0x210x play 2 beats now put its 3rd (the note G#) in the bass we might get 4x245x or 4xx45x or 4x645x play 2 beats here's an A chord (the IV chord in the key of E) 5x765x play 2 beats now...another fact...the root of IV is a whole step below the 5th of I... so, try linking IV (the A chord) to 'E with its 5th in the bass' with a diminished chord... here's an A# diminished 6x565x play 2 beats... here's I with it's 5th in the bass (E with B in the bass) 7x645x or maybe 7x999x play 2 beats.... where are we...well, the vi chord in the key of E would be C#min or C#min7.... how could we link our E/B (E chord with B bass) to C#min7.... well, you guessed it....another diminished chord.. here's C diminished 8x787x play 2 beats... then C#min7 as 9x999x for 2 beats... where could we go after that....? I dunno... maybe...Amin6 for 2 beats as 5x455x.... then.... hey, what are the chords to Georgia (in E?).... E or Emaj7 followed by G# or G#7 or G#7sus4 to G#7 followed by C#min7 followed by A.... followed by.... can you get some of that same bass walking about stuff to happen in that song? bbq chips!
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