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Old 02-10-2009, 07:41 PM
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thanks Rick, I will check out the Guitar Repair Guide, my guitar doesn't need repaired and the bridge is perfectly flush with the top, rather since the bridge is movable, how do I know when I have moved it into the right spot, answer is you know when it's in tune, but how is this accomplished. It is quite tricky to tune, and tighten the strings, and loosen the strings to retune, and keep on tweaking until the bridge is in exactly the right spot and at the right height, there must be some sure fire process for doing this?
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Old 02-10-2009, 08:01 PM
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rforman,

Give me a some time. gotta feed the pups etc.

I'll tell ya what I know a little later.

I ain't rocket science but I gotta check the books again to be sure I tell ya correct info.

It's basically the distance from the nut to the 12 fret. Then ya measure from the center of the 12th fret to the center of the bridge.. But the bass strings bend more and hafta have farther spacing. That's why someone created intonated type bridges.

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Old 02-10-2009, 08:18 PM
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rforman,

Give me a some time. gotta feed the pups etc.

I'll tell ya what I know a little later.

I ain't rocket science but I gotta check the books again to be sure I tell ya correct info.

It's basically the distance from the nut to the 12 fret. Then ya measure from the center of the 12th fret to the center of the bridge.. But the bass strings bend more and hafta have farther spacing. That's why someone created intonated type bridges.

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yeah, basically it is a pain in the rear to set the bridge, are there any tricks to making it easy?
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Question for you folks.

Differences between "acoustic" vs "amplified" arch tops and construction?
The only difference the addition of (usually) floating pickup?
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Question for you folks.

Differences between "acoustic" vs "amplified" arch tops and construction?
The only difference the addition of (usually) floating pickup?
Depends! Can o' Worms.
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Old 02-10-2009, 08:51 PM
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Depends! Can o' Worms.
Yeah, that's the impression I had.
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Old 02-10-2009, 08:58 PM
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Yeah, that's the impression I had.
in a nutshell the history of the guitar in the 20th Century can be boiled down to a the quest for more volume, you see the invention of steel strings, bigger guitars, archtop guitars, bigger still guitars, and finally the electric guitar. archtops were part of that evolution. And then when electric guitars came along the archtop got electrified and its' path as an acoustic instrument took a huge left turn and the archtop became something else. there's a lot more detail than that, but the archtop guitar takes many forms; and I believe, by and large, it is a misunderstood instrument.
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Old 02-10-2009, 09:06 PM
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Old 02-10-2009, 09:22 PM
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Ya know if I could find a Chet Atkins one that was right on, I'd be satisfied I reckon.
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Old 02-10-2009, 09:34 PM
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how about a Braz archtop: http://www.archtop.com/ac_ramona.html
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Old 02-10-2009, 09:44 PM
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rforman,

Well that is one take. However, remember Les Paul and others that searched for many years to find an acoustical electric connection. They experimented with all sorts of ideas and not just what we now know as the pup.

It's way more complicated then what you express and its more dynamic too.
IE.,,, it evolved!

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I think I suggested that it's more complicated than I expessed?
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thanks Rick, I will check out the Guitar Repair Guide, my guitar doesn't need repaired and the bridge is perfectly flush with the top, rather since the bridge is movable, how do I know when I have moved it into the right spot, answer is you know when it's in tune, but how is this accomplished. It is quite tricky to tune, and tighten the strings, and loosen the strings to retune, and keep on tweaking until the bridge is in exactly the right spot and at the right height, there must be some sure fire process for doing this?
Stewart Macdonald has a gizmo which will help you get the bridge back in the right place. Check it out here:

http://www.stewmac.com/tradesecrets/..._bridgefitting

I had to shift the bridge slightly on my 5th Avenue when I first got it, and again when I changed the OEM strings for something a tad heavier. The bridge was easy enough to move under string tension, and I was able to get it in place by ear without too much difficulty, and then use a tuner to fine-tune the placement. The StewMac tool would help you do this repeatedly - it's up to you to decide whether it's worth the price (which is not a whole lot more than that of a decent tuner).
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I love Gretsch guitars the hollow bodies in particular seem to have really nice necks.I actually had an e-mail off someone recently who was selling their 1959 6120 all original ultra clean, really strong orange finish, original cowboy case,original hang tags and case candy,just stunning.It was a bargain price as well although to clarify bargain price is relative.It was about three times less than what it would cost in a UK vintage store and about half of what it would cost to import from the U.S. it still however was for sale at about the same price as a used but fairly new family car.So it was a bargain all be it a bargain for someone who is wealthy enough not to worry too much about bargains in the first place.

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