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Old 08-29-2024, 07:05 AM
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Will never give this guitar up, the action/playability is off the charts good for my style. Plugged in, still looking for a sound. The B and E strings sound plasticy to my ear. (The bass strings are superb, snappy, just great).

I am playing into an AER amp, using a Red eye preamp. I have also tried my Boss EQ. Medium Savarez strings (don't like high tension action). So close to having a great sound here, has anybody had success with any other method?

I have considered maybe a Nux IR pedal, even the GR55. But am just looking for one good sound, keeping it simple. Thanks eveyone in advance.
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Old 08-29-2024, 08:41 AM
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Savarez strings come in more than one flavor of trebles in medium. Which ones have you tries?
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Are you using fluorocarbon trebles? There's also the titanium which are supposed to be even brighter.

It sounds like finding the right trebles will help you out a bunch.

The radical difference between wound and unwound strings often necessitates the need to experiment with treble sets until you find something pleasing to your ear.

The interaction with a piezo-based transducer also means that you might need to figure out if you want a better tone amplified or purely acoustic.

The best thing you can do is pick up a few different treble sets and try them out, taking notes or better yet, recording each result to listen and compare them later.
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Savarez strings come in more than one flavor of trebles in medium. Which ones have you tries?
Thanks, I right now have the Savarez 540R's on there.
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Old 08-29-2024, 11:26 AM
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Are you using fluorocarbon trebles? There's also the titanium which are supposed to be even brighter.

It sounds like finding the right trebles will help you out a bunch.

The radical difference between wound and unwound strings often necessitates the need to experiment with treble sets until you find something pleasing to your ear.

The interaction with a piezo-based transducer also means that you might need to figure out if you want a better tone amplified or purely acoustic.

The best thing you can do is pick up a few different treble sets and try them out, taking notes or better yet, recording each result to listen and compare them later.
Thanks, I am interested in better tone amplified. I will take your advice and try some treble sets. it's weird, any strings on the EAD sound great.
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Thanks, I right now have the Savarez 540R's on there.
Those are what I now have on my Yamaha NTX3. I preferred the amplified sound of the Yamaha stock strings, Yamaha S10 normal tension. I'll be trying the D'Addario EJ45 next since they have the normal nylon trebles.
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The d‘Addario EJ45s will make a difference, you could also try to switch your AER for an old Trace-Elliot TA 100 - they sound much more open and less compressed in the highs. I AB tested both years ago and the difference was quite stunning.
Best of luck to you!
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Will never give this guitar up, the action/playability is off the charts good for my style. Plugged in, still looking for a sound. The B and E strings sound plasticy to my ear. (The bass strings are superb, snappy, just great).

I am playing into an AER amp, using a Red eye preamp. I have also tried my Boss EQ. Medium Savarez strings (don't like high tension action). So close to having a great sound here, has anybody had success with any other method?

I have considered maybe a Nux IR pedal, even the GR55. But am just looking for one good sound, keeping it simple. Thanks eveyone in advance.
Have you checked the saddle and slot, both need to be flat to ensure optimal piezo performance.

Another thing might be the order in which you put your strings on - if you start with the bass strings now, it might be worth doing it the other way around. This might sometimes help weak trebles out a bit IME.

As far as string goes, personally I have had very good results with syngut trebles. Martin Magnificos in my case, the trebles are much less plasticky than nylon and less bright than carbons.

This set works great on both my nylon string guitars:

https://www.stringsbymail.com/martin...ion-20432.html
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Have you checked the saddle and slot, both need to be flat to ensure optimal piezo performance.

Another thing might be the order in which you put your strings on - if you start with the bass strings now, it might be worth doing it the other way around. This might sometimes help weak trebles out a bit IME.

As far as string goes, personally I have had very good results with syngut trebles. Martin Magnificos in my case, the trebles are much less plasticky than nylon and less bright than carbons.

This set works great on both my nylon string guitars:

https://www.stringsbymail.com/martin...ion-20432.html
Thanks, I gave this some thought and can't figure it out, why would putting on the trebles first (possibly) make them stronger? I iwll try those strings, thanks very much.
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The d‘Addario EJ45s will make a difference, you could also try to switch your AER for an old Trace-Elliot TA 100 - they sound much more open and less compressed in the highs. I AB tested both years ago and the difference was quite stunning.
Best of luck to you!
I'll take a look at the Trace Elliot's, thanks. I'll try the EJ45's as well.
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Those are what I now have on my Yamaha NTX3. I preferred the amplified sound of the Yamaha stock strings, Yamaha S10 normal tension. I'll be trying the D'Addario EJ45 next since they have the normal nylon trebles.
Thanks, this made me realize the Savarez trebles were carbon, so I'll try some that are 'true' nylon...
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Thanks, I gave this some thought and can't figure it out, why would putting on the trebles first (possibly) make them stronger? I iwll try those strings, thanks very much.
The idea is if you start with your basses the tension from those might prevent proper contact with the top on the treble side, especially if your saddle and slot aren't absolutely true.

Doing it trebles first those strings might get favored over the basses so to speak. Worth a shot anyway.
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The idea is if you start with your basses the tension from those might prevent proper contact with the top on the treble side, especially if your saddle and slot aren't absolutely true.

Doing it trebles first those strings might get favored over the basses so to speak. Worth a shot anyway.
Got it! I see, makes perfect sense-- in my case I've got the individual RMC saddles though. However, I have a Cordoba FC55 with the one piece saddle, I will try that for sure. Thanks.
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Got it! I see, makes perfect sense-- in my case I've got the individual RMC saddles though. However, I have a Cordoba FC55 with the one piece saddle, I will try that for sure. Thanks.
Ahh, I see - wasn't aware of that, sorry for inapplicable advice, don't know that particular Godin model. Hope you get it sorted.
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Will never give this guitar up, the action/playability is off the charts good for my style. Plugged in, still looking for a sound. The B and E strings sound plasticy to my ear. (The bass strings are superb, snappy, just great).

I am playing into an AER amp, using a Red eye preamp. I have also tried my Boss EQ. Medium Savarez strings (don't like high tension action). So close to having a great sound here, has anybody had success with any other method?

I have considered maybe a Nux IR pedal, even the GR55. But am just looking for one good sound, keeping it simple. Thanks eveyone in advance.
I take it your Multiac is a midi version with RMC pickups? The gold plated metal pickups?

If so, we make a system you may find desirable.

It is a direct fit replacement. We use Graphtech individual pickups saddles which replace the RMCs directly.

You may prefer the sound of the Graphtechs better and our system is not the ultra low impedance sound of RMC.

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