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This is only my example, on an X10 (1 11/16" nut width) from 2018. I did custom order it with a shorter scale, 24.6". Using a digital caliper, I came up with:

1st fret: 1.8" width, .83" depth
5th fret: 1.95" width, .85" depth
12th fret: 2.2" width, .9" depth

Stock necks and newer design may be different.

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I’ve asked Emerald for neck measurements up and down the neck, trying to know exactly what “narrower neck” means, but was never given an answer.
I just saw that Emerald has set up a ‘Book a Call’ option which might be a good option for you to pursue:

https://emeraldguitars.com/book-a-call/
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This is only my example, on an X10 (1 11/16" nut width) from 2018. I did custom order it with a shorter scale, 24.6". Using a digital caliper, I came up with:

1st fret: 1.8" width, .83" depth
5th fret: 1.95" width, .85" depth
12th fret: 2.2" width, .9" depth

Stock necks and newer design may be different.

Hope that helps.
Thank you Jim. It's at least something I can compare and point to, which is a step closer. I appreciate you taking the time to do this.

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This is only my example, on an X10 (1 11/16" nut width) from 2018. I did custom order it with a shorter scale, 24.6". Using a digital caliper, I came up with:

1st fret: 1.8" width, .83" depth
5th fret: 1.95" width, .85" depth
12th fret: 2.2" width, .9" depth

Stock necks and newer design may be different.

Hope that helps.
Thanks for the info, Captain! Very helpful information. However, the first fret nut width appears wider than a 1 11/16th, which should be around 1.68 or so, unless my math skills fail me. Is it wider because Emerald just shapes their necks wider than their stated specs? See post #17 in this thread with info and photo by KevinH.

Not trying to get into an internet squabble; I’m sold on Emerald quality and tone and respect their business model and innovation. That said, no company is perfect. Emerald seems to listen to customers’ feedback so hopefully this is something that gets updated on their website (in addition to descriptions of their pickup systems).
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Thanks for the info, Captain! Very helpful information. However, the first fret nut width appears wider than a 1 11/16th, which should be around 1.68 or so, unless my math skills fail me. Is it wider because Emerald just shapes their necks wider than their stated specs? See post #17 in this thread with info and photo by KevinH.
Look again - Jim said the nut width is 1.68”, and the width at the *1st fret* is 1.8”.

For another example, here are the width measurements from my stock X20:

Nut: 1.78”
1st fret: 1.83”
5th fret: 2.03”
12th fret: 2.29”
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Ah, got it. Thanks for the correction!
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Look again - Jim said the nut width is “1.68”, and the width at the *1st fret* is 1.8”.

For another example, here are the width measurements from my stock X20:

Nut: 1.78”
1st fret: 1.83”
5th fret: 2.03”
12th fret: 2.29”
Right, so for your X20 guitar the width difference between nut and 1st fret is 0.05", and for the guitar Jim measured the difference is 0.12": more than twice as much. I've been thinking about getting an Emerald X10 because I want a 1 11/16" nut, but that won't help if the neck itself is wider than a typical guitar with a 1 3/4" nut.
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Right, so for your X20 guitar the width difference between nut and 1st fret is 0.05", and for the guitar Jim measured the difference is 0.12": more than twice as much. I've been thinking about getting an Emerald X10 because I want a 1 11/16" nut, but that won't help if the neck itself is wider than a typical guitar with a 1 3/4" nut.
If you look at what I measured, and what David measured, the neck on my X10 is not wider than the X20. I have an X20 I can measure, but I can tell you the neck on my X10 (1 11/16" nut) is narrower than on my X20 (1 3/4" nut). Interestingly enough, I have no issue going back and forth between those two.

For the better part of a decade, I was convinced that only a "Taylor neck" would work for me. I have a variety of guitars and am able to play each in a moderately average manner... that's on me, not the neck shapes.

Each of my Emerald necks is different, and are among my favorites.
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If you look at what I measured, and what David measured, the neck on my X10 is not wider than the X20. I have an X20 I can measure, but I can tell you the neck on my X10 (1 11/16" nut) is narrower than on my X20 (1 3/4" nut). Interestingly enough, I have no issue going back and forth between those two.

For the better part of a decade, I was convinced that only a "Taylor neck" would work for me. I have a variety of guitars and am able to play each in a moderately average manner... that's on me, not the neck shapes.

Each of my Emerald necks is different, and are among my favorites.
Really appreciate your thoughts Jim, since you have both. Like you, I love the Taylor neck profile but have adjusted to the X20. But I am thinking of the future, as I progress into my golden years and want to get a special X20 that I can enjoy playing for my remaining years. Buying and selling just isn’t as fun anymore for me so this custom order will likely be my last.

With that in mind, One last question (famous last words), on your X10 with the 1 11/16” nut width, is the bridge spacing still 2 1/4”?

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Really appreciate your thoughts Jim, since you have both. Like you, I love the Taylor neck profile but have adjusted to the X20. But I am thinking of the future, as I progress into my golden years and want to get a special X20 that I can enjoy playing for my remaining years. Buying and selling just isn’t as fun anymore for me so this custom order will likely be my last.

With that in mind, One last question (famous last words), on your X10 with the 1 11/16” nut width, is the bridge spacing still 2 1/4”?

Thanks
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One last answer: it is 2.25" on mine. That said, I am not, nor have I ever been, employed or compensated by Emerald. They would be the ones to ask about any current production specs. Your mileage may vary. Void where prohibited by law. Caveat Emptor. You snooze, you loose. You can lead a horse to water, but if you can make him float on his back, you really got something. Since I am firmly into those "golden years," I can vouch for the saying: "Buy the guitar - you never know."
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Thanks for taking the time and effort to post this, Kevin. The photo perfectly illustrates the point - and explains why the X30 I tried with a 1 3/4 nut felt so much wider than my CA Legacy with an identical nut width.
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I would like to see an Emerald neck that follows the string path up the neck. All Emeralds I have experienced start with a wide fretboard and get progressively wider up the neck, the edges of the fretboard not paralleling the string path at all.

Not sure why this is but Emerald's width outside the string path (shoulders?) are quite different than any of my wood guitars. I don't know why this seems to be their "thing" by design or some other reason.

Not sure if it is easily customizable, but I think there is still a lot of handwork involved in the raw necks coming out of the mold @ Emerald. Would think it is as doable as the new custom fretboard radii.

Curious why this is so apparent:
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One last answer: it is 2.25" on mine. That said, I am not, nor have I ever been, employed or compensated by Emerald. They would be the ones to ask about any current production specs. Your mileage may vary. Void where prohibited by law. Caveat Emptor. You snooze, you loose. You can lead a horse to water, but if you can make him float on his back, you really got something. Since I am firmly into those "golden years," I can vouch for the saying: "Buy the guitar - you never know."
Thanks for the one last answer and a laugh.

I will be scheduling an appointment soon so maybe I can get a nice Christmas present this year
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