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Old 02-24-2021, 06:18 PM
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When I first started down this road it was a time-consuming chore to get clean sounding comp tracks in Pro Tools. Just about every edit resulted in clicks or pops that you had to zoom all the way in on and correct with the drawing tool which didn't always do what you wanted it to do. When crossfades came along, it really cut down on the time it took to comp tracks. And now there's auto crossfades and it's even quicker.

But that *@&# drawing tool... the only way I got it to work was if I made a quick, smooth, sweep, and even then it was very hit or miss. It wasn't unusual to have to attempt the edit 4 or 5 times before you got a smooth line that wouldn't introduce another click or pop.
Yes, there's an art to how to paste in an edit or part of a different take without hearing a click. There may be some YouTube tutorial that tells a person how to do this, but I just figured out what to do through trial and error. I learned a few tricks from watching my son manipulate Cubase when we have done some projects together. These days I think I could do an edit without introducing any noise 100% of the time, though maybe I'm kidding myself!

When I worked with a team of 14 men and women running an engineering group, we learned so many different things from each other, especially when it comes to manipulating software. I really miss that kind of thing. Working in isolation has some disadvantages, although not getting interrupted constantly is one of the pluses.

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Old 02-24-2021, 08:01 PM
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Yes, there's an art to how to paste in an edit or part of a different take without hearing a click.
I was referencing Pro Tools of the early 2000s. These days it's very rare that I hear a pop or click that needs addressing because of the improvements I mentioned. I don't know how they're handled in Cubase but in PT it's very easy to get a nice crossfade these days.
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I was referencing Pro Tools of the early 2000s. These days it's very rare that I hear a pop or click that needs addressing because of the improvements I mentioned. I don't know how they're handled in Cubase but in PT it's very easy to get a nice crossfade these days.
I agree It hardly gets any easier or faster than swipe/highlight the entire track hit Command F and choose X fade
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I agree It hardly gets any easier or faster than swipe/highlight the entire track hit Command F and choose X fade
Do you go back as far as when we had to use the drawing tool to get rid of the pops and clicks that happened when we put segments up against each other?
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Yes, there's an art to how to paste in an edit or part of a different take without hearing a click.
I never used Pro Tools, but remember zooming way in with CoolEdit 2000 to find the nearest zero crossing to make my cuts.
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Do you go back as far as when we had to use the drawing tool to get rid of the pops and clicks that happened when we put segments up against each other?
Honestly I don't remember, what the fade situation was.
In either March or April , of 2003 I got a Digi 002, 8 mic pre console with faders and a firewire connection , which was Digi Designs top of line Pro Tools LE interface at the time . I believe it shipped with PTLE 6 (so whatever fade workflow that version was is what I started with )

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Honestly I don't remember, what the fade situation was.
In either March or April , of 2003 I got a Digi 002, 8 mic pre console with faders, which was Digi Designs top of line Pro Tools LE interface at the time . I believe it shipped with PTLE 6 (so whatever fade workflow that version was is what I started with )
Then you must have been using the drawing tool.

I got started about a year or so before you. My first interface was a Digi 001. I think the PTLE version was 5.something. Some years later I got the 003. I sent the 003 to Black Lion Audio for the mod they were offering. It opened up the sound a fair bit. I think I used the 003 up until the UA Apollo Firewire came out.
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Coming from razorblades, I honestly thought anything with "Undo" was miraculous. Taking three tries to get it right was just fine after the "only one try" paradigm.
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Coming from razorblades, I honestly thought anything with "Undo" was miraculous. Taking three tries to get it right was just fine after the "only one try" paradigm.
Tape is great for hostages in the basement but I want no part of it in my studio. I can understand the joy that accompanied the conversion to digital.
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Tape is great for hostages in the basement but I want no part of it in my studio. I can understand the joy that accompanied the conversion to digital.
Hey great song hook...." Dig-it-tal,,,, Conversion",,,,, think "Chrystal Blue Persuasion"
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