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Old 12-05-2018, 11:37 AM
Quickstep192 Quickstep192 is offline
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I have some holly that I want to cut into bindings and I'm looking for tips.

It seems easy enough to cut strips on the tablesaw, but making an 1/8" kerf to get a .08 binding seems wasteful.

Any tricks of the trade?
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Old 12-05-2018, 11:40 AM
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I use a 40 tooth skilsaw blade on my tablesaw which cuts about a .06 kerf.
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Old 12-05-2018, 11:43 AM
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I use a tabletop bandsaw, mine is a three wheel Craftsman. The kerf is much smaller than 1/8", and it cuts that thickness easily. You can find them used for $100, and they are quite useful.
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Old 12-05-2018, 11:55 AM
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Photos please. Interesting subject.

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Old 12-05-2018, 12:58 PM
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I resaw a plank on a big Aggie bandsaw, then thickness-sand the leaves to my spec., then cut to height on a three-wheel bandsaw with a very narrow blade.

I also have a micro-table-saw I can use for the operation. It uses .031 blades. As I recall I got that saw dirt cheap at Harbor Freight.

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Old 12-05-2018, 01:20 PM
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This. .059" kerf.

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Old 12-05-2018, 05:25 PM
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Is what it is, many processes are wasteful in building a guitar, from resawing wood for tops / backs and sides to making binding.

Just use what you have and cut as many as you can

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Old 12-05-2018, 05:30 PM
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Around here holly grows all over and some folks will certainly let you cut it. so if it's free, what the heck?
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Old 12-05-2018, 06:10 PM
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I usually cut off the bindings from the side set before bending, then add purflings and glue them back where they came from.

I use an old fret slotting blade. It smokes, but it cuts, with almost no waste at all.
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Old 12-06-2018, 09:54 PM
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This. .059" kerf.

Yes.... I got that tip from Mario Proulx at the MIMF. Didn't believe it myself until I tried it. With a zero clearance insert, I can cut down to .040" with reasonable consistency and relatively clean, only needing a little scraping to smooth out the saw marks.

Also great for general ripping if it's not too thick a stock; the thin kerf doesn't bind, and with a tablesaw's horsepower it cuts through like butter with very little noise, which equals very little vibration very smooth cuts...
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Old 12-06-2018, 09:56 PM
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I think the question is, where does one find holly that's clear enough for the length needed for binding! Everything locally looks great, until there's a knot...
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Old 12-06-2018, 10:37 PM
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Everything locally looks great, until there's a knot...
Everything is great, until it's knot.
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Old 12-07-2018, 11:14 AM
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My experience with holly in boatbuilding is that it quite unstable and prone to twisting and warping. May not be too bad for binding, but being able to cut a 32 or 64 inch length might be difficult.

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Old 12-07-2018, 01:01 PM
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I use a razor knife. I will resaw off a QS veneer of what ever wood I am using and finish it to 1/8in thick. Then clamp it down on a work board with a long straight edge. Then with a fresh blade on the knife score a line along the edge and go deeper and deeper till it pops off. Usually takes 5 or 6 swipes.

Pretty much zero waste with that method.
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Old 12-08-2018, 08:20 PM
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Holly gets blue sap stain very fast when cut in the summer; you must dry it fast. I cut down a 4"-5" section about 18" long this spring for making a red, white, black, block to cut and sandwich between veneers. Cut into 3x16"x 1/2" sections and microwaved. dried it over two days but still got a gray stain. Might still use it but not what I was hoping for. In Atlanta I have only found holly veneer, no 1/4 or 4/4 to cut up. Buy veneer don't cut that up. Holly and blood wood go great with black dyed veneer. I found plenty of 4/4 blood wood but no veneer. I cut blood wood into 1/16"-1/4"strips off the side of board. Over half goes to sawdust. Blood wood is Very hard. White can be maple.
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