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Yeah lol maybe. The bad thing is I enjoyed the rounded edges and neck a bit more than I thought. Just need to breathe lol. |
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I just got back from playing at church. Because my J-45 is in the shop, I took my OM/PW today. It's an awesome guitar, super resonant and very loud, but I have used my J-45 for church duty for years and miss not having it in the house.
There is nothing else that sounds like a J-45. NOTHING Be very careful before selling it is my point.
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Yeah you are 100% right. I need to get the Retros off of it before I do something stupid. Honestly, I’ve had the fortune of having almost unlimited free time this weekend to play guitar. The D-18 is the clear winner. It’s a beast and sounds superb. The J-45 is second and the 000-18 hasn’t gotten much attention this weekend. Sounds good but not on the same level as the J-45 and D-18. I shouldn’t have played the 717. I thought it would confirm my “negativity” towards V Bracing, but I honestly quite liked the tone. I’ve been searching for a DADGAD guitar and it excelled. |
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Okay, I'll write another post based on actual playing.
I have been in a massive liquidation mode for two years. I won't reveal specific numbers, but I've reduced my collection by about 75%, and still have many guitars (plural) to choose from. I'm now down to the hard choices. Recently I pulled out my BIG guitars.. HD-28, D-18, J-45 and my 1988 Martin J-65M, which is a Jumbo Maple/Sitka that I bought new. Let me point out that I'm a "Martin Guy", but in a back-to-back weeding out/playing session over a couple days, the two Martin D's got the axe. They are now at my local store hanging on the consignment wall. So yesterday, while I was there to drop off yet another (lesser) guitar, I had opportunity to play both a 517 and 717 Taylor Grand Pacific. And I was able to play them alongside my ..yes MY.. HD-28 and D-18. Although the Mahogany Taylor was my clear preference over the Rosewood, neither.. that's right neither.. led me to want one. I was glad to go home and play my Gibson J-45. And yes, the Taylors were very nice and I applaud them for their innovative approach and inventive ideas. I simply don't want to pull money out of my pocket to have one. And before anyone blasts me for brand bias, remember that I'm the Martin guy who prefers his J-45 to his D-18. Bottom line-- Play whatchawant, but don't sell that Gibson. |
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This is great! Thanks! I’m going to try a few more and see how I feel as time goes on. The guitar was comfortable for sure, and that is how Taylor sucks me in every time. |
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I've had my 717 BE for about a month now. It is opening up and has become my No 1 player. It is definitely the best playing acoustic that I have, and has given me cause tor reduce the number of guitar I currently own, including one I thought I would never get rid of.
For comparison purposes, I've got a couple of D-18's (a 1947 and a 2015), a Collings D2HA-T, and a Bob Thompson Lutz over Hog dread. The 717 is a good as any of them. Still trying different strings. While the Elixers do sound just fine, I'm not a fan of how slick they feel. Tried some Martin Retros, and they did nothing for the guitar. I current have D'Addario EJ17's on the guitar and am about to try some JP Mediums or New Mediums. D
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This doesn’t help my GAS!!! I’m probably just gonna buy a freakin 717! |
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As I warned in another topic don’t try a 717 because you’ll bring it home. The 717 has the ability to convert Martin owners to buy a Taylor!
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In this video, Andy explains why he built the Grand Pacific.
It appears that he was looking to get the sound of an old Gibson Slope Shoulder guitar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojzF8YkhtDQ
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If it were me, I’d probably let go of one of the Martins rather than the J-45 if I was dead set on replacing one of those guitars with a Taylor 717.
I was able to hear and play the 517 and 717 several weeks before they were announced at NAMM — very nice guitars. I too preferred the rosewood in that model even though I typically favor mahogany. |
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Wouldn't that make you a Gibson guy?
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I was thinking that, but I know what he means. Every now and then you find a guitar that surprises you from another brand. I guess for right now, that guitar to me is the Grand Pacific.
I've stepped back and gathered myself for now, but I'm going to keep a 717 on the back burner. I'm going to call around and get some pricing because if I can't at least get a similar discount to what Martins go for, it is out of the question. Hopefully you can't get good discounts on Taylor and I'm saved by the price lol. |
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Seriously, though, I'm reading these posts with great interest, as I have not had a chance to see or play a GP in person yet.
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