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I've played over a dozen Eastman guitars and have yet to find one that I would purchase. If I'm looking with a critical eye, the materials and build quality range from just ok to good as did the sound. I've not found any to be really great guitars and for the money ($1200 - $1500), I would look at some used options for other guitars that are a clear step above, IMO. In that range, Larivee OM or L bodies come to mind along with Martin 18 series or mid range Taylors, Gibsons, etc.
I know the statement above will not sit well with some Eastman lovers here, but this is my subjective view based on my experience. It's great to have choices.
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Like yourself, I'm happy for the choices. Also, you are comparing used to new..that's not apples to apples value-wise.
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Exactly. I feel if Eastman were built in say... Canada everyone would be raving about them.
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I'm going to make a blanket statement here which I believe to be quite valid with one qualifier, the word "Generally"
Generally speaking, I find that the tendency here to dismiss Eastman's value as something less than what they are or compare them to mass-produced PAC-rim instruments is either borne from limited personal experience, no experience or just plain bias. When I read posts from folks on here who own Martins, Collins, Gibsons, Taylor's, and other brands and they say the Eastmans they own are comparable or in some cases better guitars, I can't dismiss those opinions as a personal bias in favor of Eastman. These are real people with the ability to compare Eastmans with their own guitar collections and the other brands they own. If folks want to be dismissive of these opinions, oh well.
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But Eastmans ARE mass-produced Pac-rim instruments, aren’t they? I’m not at all intending to bash Eastman. I like the company’s story, and I think they make cool instruments.
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I use a E6OM for practice and on the bandstand, I love it. I would say D and C for a response.
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When I pick one of mine up with the knowledge it was made with a hand-carved neck, hand-cut wood pieces, hand-sprayed finish etc., etc., and it's done that well,it brings me joy.
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I would also put them somewhere between C and D.
Someone said they did a good job of "copying" gibson or martin. They're not any different than any other boutique builder that has their own interpretation of the classics. Collings has their dreads, slope shoulders, etc. So with that being said, they're not trying to be Martin or Gibson or Taylor. They are their own thing like others have said. They have their own voicing and many are impressed by it. I have 2 flattops. My all Sapele GA that was under $500, we actually prefer it to the Taylor 314ce. I had a luthier do some tweaks on it and he was in disbelief with how inexpensive it was and how good it sounded. I'm planning on selling the Taylor. I have the E20SS and I love it. I just got a D-18 which is getting most of my attention these days but then I pick up the Eastman, I find it more loose and responsive than the Martin. It's rosewood so it's doing what rosewood does. They're different and great in their own ways. The D-18 is punchier but with all the wonderful bass and it can take a hard strumming. It has medium strings and the Eastman has lights so that could be why. My husband got one of their arch tops. All solid wood, nitrocellulose finish. Gorgeous to look at. He rarely lets himself get a new toy but this one impressed him enough to take it home. So that's my spiel on Eastmans. They're like any other good brand. I've played plenty of Taylors and Martins that didn't speak to me so it's no different with Eastmans. They won't speak to everyone. It doesn't mean they're inferior.
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I hear you. I’d love to check out one of their sunburst OMs.
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Yeah What scolaguitar said. And just for the record I sold my Taylor 810 and will keep my Eastman e20d cause I think it sounds better than my Taylor did. I'm just glad I bought my Taylor when it was only 2000 bucks, otherwise I would really be pissed. Just my 2 cents. Also have a Eastman E10ss that I will never sell. Both guitars to ME are great sounding.
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I'm going to post some pictures of the "critical areas" of my E 10 OO SS soon so people can look and decide for themselves about the Eastman "build"
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They are absolutely NOT mass produced. They are all hand made, no CNC machines to be found at the factory. Production is not keeping with demand at the moment as Eastman will not just hire workers off the street. That is why prices have just gone up.
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No, that is incorrect. They are still a relatively small factory employing a lot of craftsmen.
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