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Old 01-14-2020, 04:30 PM
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Default La dee da cable has convinced my cold skeptic heart

I've been using a 15ft D'addario cable with straight jacks for a long time. When I recently rewired my little acoustic pedalboard, I decided that an angled jack would work better and so I picked ip a new 12ft model.

This time I splurged on a Mogami Platinum cable, even though I was pretty certain that no difference would be audible.

I was wrong. The difference is not particularly subtle at concert volumes.
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Old 01-15-2020, 07:25 AM
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How old was that 15' cable? Good chance that some wire strands were broken inside it?
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Possibly, but my cable tester reports a good connection.
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One of my responsibilities in my role (in a different industry) is managing a team of engineers for signal processing cable design and manufacturing.

I can attest that good cables are not snake oil or hype - there really is a difference.

Mogami cables are the "Cadillac" of instrument cables and for some users that difference is worth their significantly higher cost.

I am not a professional so can't justify Mogami cables for long runs (the price really skyrockets with length) but for short cables and patch cables I love Mogami cables.
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I had a similar experience when I switched out a Monster Studio cable for a Mogami cable (for acoustic guitar); the difference was wonderful, startling and VERY apparent, even to these 68 year old ears!

Switched all my guitar cords to Mogami wire shortly thereafter...
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Cables have a 'sound'. I've tried several side-by-side, plugged straight from guitar to amp. listened for tone. Some are midrangey, some brighter, some seem more open. I look for a really good quality bulld that is quiest and lasts well. I had settled on D'addario American Stage cables for a long time. Great connectors, reliable, well built, they dont get kinked up on stage.

Then I recently tried Pro-Co Evolution cables on the recommendation of a friend. They sound more open and neutral to my ear and they have great connectors too. So I bought four of them so I can have independent pedal boards and cables for each (Guitar to pedal board & another for Pedal board to amp)

I largely prefer these cables. I'm sure Mogami's are great too. But you might take a listen and compare side-by-side like I did and realize they all introduce some degree of tonal shift.

Get the one you think sound great and are well built. In my case, they cost more, but I gig a lot and its worth it to me.
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Possibly, but my cable tester reports a good connection.
Your consumer grade cable tester or multimeter won't reveal a dielectric breakdown in the inner insulation, or if the shield or conductor has broken strands either. But those are both signal killers. And I'm betting you don't have a TDR.
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Cables have a 'sound'.
Ermm...

[pedantry]

Systems might be described to have a "sound" but that has to include everything from the player to the listener. It might be argued that various cables might produce different characteristics in a particular player/instrument/cable/amp combination (I'd like to see the double blind test) but I'd bet the full box of matchsticks that if the cable appears to have a sound then it's because of how it interacts within a system so, no, cables do not "have" a sound.
[/pedantry]
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Ermm...

[pedantry]

Systems might be described to have a "sound" but that has to include everything from the player to the listener. It might be argued that various cables might produce different characteristics in a particular player/instrument/cable/amp combination (I'd like to see the double blind test) but I'd bet the full box of matchsticks that if the cable appears to have a sound then it's because of how it interacts within a system so, no, cables do not "have" a sound.
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Fair enough. Cables having different capacitances which affect the 'sound.' I was just over generalizing meaning a variety of cables sound different to me. Choose your poison.
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