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11-09-2019, 02:48 PM
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Hearing people talking about guitar tone
...is just so silly. The stack of adjectives, many with the most tenuous connection with actual sound, is huge.
And yet...you pretty much have to try, right? I mean, Gibsons and Martins and Taylors and Larivees and Lowdons and Seagulls--they all sound different. And this is precisely the place where people have to convey each's lovely difference. We're buying and selling and contemplating each brand's magic. So we dig deep to try. It's like wine lovers trying to describe each bottle's taste difference. I've laughed out loud at times reading some of your attempts, as you've likely laughed at mine. So a toast to our tomfoolery [clink]. Long may it continue.
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11-09-2019, 02:53 PM
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"toasted wheat underpinnings" makes me want to slap someone. Martin Mull (and others) had it right...
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11-09-2019, 03:13 PM
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11-09-2019, 03:18 PM
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11-09-2019, 03:41 PM
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Toasted wheat? I'll take rye toast with my eggs over medium, thanks
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11-09-2019, 03:41 PM
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Good post, excellent really. Yes, it’s an extremely vicarious exercise to describe sound, and what’s even more curious is discussions around guitar playing where someone asks to compare instruments outside of mechanical specifications. Oh well, what to do? In the old days we just played them to find what works. No substitute for first hand experience.
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11-09-2019, 03:51 PM
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11-09-2019, 03:52 PM
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Reminds me of the comment about music reviewers : "writing about music is like dancing about architecture"
- Frank Zappa? Martin Mull????
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11-09-2019, 04:00 PM
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My Gibson sizzles like Gloucester Old Spot sausages, with a hint of smoked bacon, finished with a bouquet of Earl Grey and lemon. Pretentious, moi?
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11-09-2019, 04:03 PM
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The problem arises when attempting to communicate something about a guitar's sound for which there are no commonly accepted words.
I find it a bit humorous, too. 
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11-09-2019, 04:32 PM
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"Hearing people talking about guitar tone"
I usually listen to what hearing people have to say about tone. I have known some hard of hearing or deaf who describe "how it feels", more so than what it sounds like. I just can't wait for the adjectives to describe guitar tone. Loud, soft, warm, sparkling, clear, clean, deep, middy, bright, round, dark, hollow, woody, balanced, beautiful, sweet, bassy, ........ Someone help me out here with some more.
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11-09-2019, 04:39 PM
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We all have different ears and over time even the frequencies we hear change so our tastes may change as well.
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11-09-2019, 04:50 PM
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I try to preface my comments about tone with "I'm really horrible at describing tone." I definitely can see the analogy between describing wine/beer and guitar tone. However, being a non-drinker I'm more amused in a restaurant or bar when I hear the back and forth patter between a server and customer about something that will remain on the palate for seconds and be swirling around the porcelain bowl within an hour or so. These conversations are frequent and omnipresent where I live due to the inundation of wineries, vineyards and micro-breweries...
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11-09-2019, 05:05 PM
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1. My bought-new 50 year old Martin D-35 lost a lot of volume after it's bridge and saddle were lowered for the second time. My Eastman parlor is now louder. 2. The impeccable used rosewood Larrivee that I bought on Reverb was so wooden that I resold it week later.
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