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Sneak peek and listen at the new Journey FF660M
Guitar Specifications Proprietary Body Design: Stylized 00 body shape Mid-position offset sound hole for maximum resonance Scoopaway™ for access to all 20 frets while maintaining maximum volume Beveled back for maximum playing comfort Wedge design for increased volume, comfort and efficiency Beveled soundboard armrest for maximum comfort Soundboard: Unidirectional carbon fiber with proprietary carbon fiber bracing, unibody construction Back and Sides: carbon fiber Markings: Metallic foil logo and position markings Scale: 24.5 in (622.3 mm) Finish: Matte polyurethane Bridge: Carbon Fiber, high break-angle Tuners: Journey 18:1 Locking Tuners Electronics: Included JourneyTek™ under-bridge passive 3-piezo transducer pickup system delivers accurate and clear amplification for any PA system or amp. Removable Neck Assembly: Stainless steel load-bearing components Push-button release latch under neck Large adjustment knob on back Neck: Carbon fiber matte low- C shape with two-way adjustable truss rod Deep-slotted bone nut Neck width at nut: 1 ¾ in (44.5 mm) Neck width at 12th fret: 2.2 in (56 mm) Neck Thickness at 1st fret: 0.86 in(21.8mm) Neck Thickness at 5th fret:0.91 in(23mm) Neck Thickness at 9th fret:0.96 in(24.5mm) 14 Frets to body 20 Frets total Fret Board: 16 inch Radius, Carbon Fiber Jumbo brass fret wire String Spacing: 2 ¼ in (>57.2mm) Compensated bone saddle Strings: Elixir® Phosphor-Bronze Lights Guitar Dimensions and Weights: Weight: 4.6 lbs (2.1 kg) Weight With Case: 12 lbs (5.4 kg) Maximum depth: 5.5 in (14 cm) Minimum Depth: 3.75 in (9.6 cm) Total Assembled Length: 36.5 in (94 cm) Lower Bout Width: 14.5 in (37 cm) Maximum Case Dimensions: (unpacked) L*W*H: 22.5*14.5*9 in ( 55.9*36.8* 22.9 cm)
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I've been excited since this was first mentioned in this topic.
However, when travelling I often use my OF660 off the beaten path, with no smooth floors, sidewalks or other finished surfaces. I'm hopeful there will be a case option which doesn't add 4-5 pounds of wheels/handle which I'm not going to use, or bulk left over from having to remove them. I'm also hoping this will be available in a gloss finish. Before the Journey OF660, I was using a Rainsong AWS as a travel beater. I traded off the better volume/balance for the smaller size, but would happily get them back if I'm not adding bulk and weight at the same time. |
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I think this new model looks much better than its predecessor.
However, I don’t think the demo did it justice. Whacking away at partial chords with no discernible melody, and no dynamics worth speaking of doesn’t really show the range of any instrument.
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Of course. It would be a dull world if we all liked the same thing.
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Looks like the hole was cut in the wrong place.
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If they have more projection and volume than my rt 660 and then the tone they might have something interesting. Although the weight with case at 12.5 lbs is pretty unattractive.
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Well, I'm out.
I just heard back from Journey, and the only case available is the heavy one with wheels. I don't normally think of myself as a frontier type, but apparently my hiking puts me into a different category from their target market for this one. I actually think this is funny. Remember how they used to market their instruments? The new, improved slogan? It effortlessly goes everywhere you want to go... unless you leave the sidewalk.... |
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What exactly are you looking for if price wasn't an obstacle? This guitar is encroaching on the X7 price point new, and that guitar comes in a nifty light gig bag.
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But, for hiking, a guitar that breaks down would be better, depending on how long of a hike. |
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In terms of what I'm looking for (well, GASsing for more acvurately), I was hoping for the larger body when assembled, and around the same size and weight packed as the OF660. I used to take my Rainsong AWS1000 everywhere as a beater when size permitted. For something more compact, it would be the Yamaha SLG100, maybe augmented with a small JBL speaker (surprisingly good sound, low weight). The OF660 is a great travel option, if a little undersize for a full service acoustic. You can pack the body when traveling. You can take it hiking on a mountain and into the woods, to the beach, to a big grassy hill for a picnic. It adds about as much weight as a cased mandolin, or less, but it's a guitar. The FF660 fits in an overhead, and the body can be filled when traveling, but it weighs too much to casually do all the other activities on the other side of a flight, or even a car ride. Low size and weight, transportation and hiking friendly. The OF660 does it. The FF660 doesn't. (Funny... I thought all those ideas were obvious....) Oh, and having had a chance to try an Enya X4, if I was looking for a low-cost carbon beater, the Enya is surprisingly good, and much less than the Emerald X7. Cheers! |
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Maybe stupid question but why would you need a guitar bag to be tsa size when legally you're allowed to bring an instrument on the flight?
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Further, if one is taking, say, the metro in Paris or Madrid, it's easier to have a smaller bag. Given that some of those stations have lots of steps and no escalators, smaller and lighter is better. --- I didn't fully realize that traveling with an instrument, including both planes and going off-road, weren't on everyone's activities in the Carbon subforum. I was so excited decades ago when I first talked to a Rainsong rep at Chuck Levin's, and found out about instruments that could take abuse, rainstorms and waterfalls. (The guy hammered on the guitar with his fists.) Offroad and bad weather outdoor gigs/weddings just always seemed to me to be the core market for this. Well, live and learn! |
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Yep, certainly, and mostly that. But, at least for me, part of the attraction of my Emerald is that it sounds (and looks) different from my other guitars.
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