The Acoustic Guitar Forum

Go Back   The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > Carbon Fiber

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 01-05-2019, 07:09 PM
Kupuna50's Avatar
Kupuna50 Kupuna50 is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,019
Default Emerald

Just picked up an Emerald X-10 12 string!
Question to my fellow AGF'rs:
What strings do you use/like?
What gauge?
Any related thoughts would be appreciated!






Last edited by Kupuna50; 01-06-2019 at 11:57 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-05-2019, 07:35 PM
EvanB EvanB is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 2,520
Default

I have no information, but I congratulate you on your new acquisition. It should be a lot of fun. I played an early Emerald 12 string and was surprised at how easy it was to play and how good it sounded. Enjoy!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-05-2019, 08:23 PM
GuitarLuva GuitarLuva is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: The Great White North
Posts: 453
Default

I would be putting Elixir nanoweb on that thing whatever gauge that you prefer and 80/20 if you like brighter tone or phosphor bronze if you prefer warmer. I wouldn't want to be changing strings on a 12er very often so elixirs are a good choice.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-05-2019, 08:51 PM
AZLiberty AZLiberty is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Arizona
Posts: 6,684
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GuitarLuva View Post
I wouldn't want to be changing strings on a 12er very often so elixirs are a good choice.
This is generally why I usually use EXP-38 strings on my 12s.

I don't like the way Elixirs shred (or feel). Dislike 80/20s in general, and really dislike them on a 12-string.
__________________
Larrivee OM-03RE; O-01
Martin D-35; Guild F-212; Tacoma Roadking
Breedlove American Series C20/SR
Rainsong SFTA-FLE; WS3000; CH-PA
Taylor GA3-12, Guild F-212

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/markhorning
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-05-2019, 09:01 PM
Mark L Mark L is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 312
Default

Check out Curt Mangan 12 string sets. Many alloys and gauges available, including coated. Excellent strings, love them on my Emerald 12.

I also use the elixir nano light set.

No need for D-d on the CF Emerald.

Please report back on your findings, and congrats on the new Emerald 12.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-06-2019, 02:01 AM
ac ac is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,531
Default

Which Emerald? X7? X20?

Maybe different strings apply for each. (?)
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-06-2019, 02:20 AM
GuitarLuva GuitarLuva is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: The Great White North
Posts: 453
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AZLiberty View Post
This is generally why I usually use EXP-38 strings on my 12s.

I don't like the way Elixirs shred (or feel). Dislike 80/20s in general, and really dislike them on a 12-string.
Yeah this is a pure case of "to each their own" I love D'Addario electric strings but dislike their acoustic strings. I tried just about every acoustic string out there but keep coming back to elixir's I find they last the longest, offer the least amount of squeakiness and I also love the brightness from 80/20's.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-06-2019, 07:32 AM
AcouStickistNS AcouStickistNS is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 164
Default 12

Iím halfway through re-stringing the 12 on my Chimaera. Trying the Light gage 10-47 Elixer PBís. Iíve got the same on the 6 string side in 12-53 gage.

The best DíAddarios I liked were the Nickel Bronze.
The last set Iím replacing were John Pearse 80/20 Bronze, which were not as overly bright as the Daddarios Iíve tried in 80/20, really liked the JPís.

The stock 80/20 DAddarios Emerald put on sounded good to me but seemed to be a bit higher tension even after adjusting the neck a little.

What Iíve noticed about the Elixers is I donít have to fight the bridge pins popping out when restringing. Seems the wrap around the ball end is a lot cleaner and uniform compared to other MFGs. These are not as dull sounding as some othe Phosphor Bronze sets Iíve tried. Somewhat splitting hairs deciding whether the Elixers, DD Nickel Bronze, and the John Pearse are better. Iím leaning toward the Elixers as the string noise is minimal on a carbon fiber guitar with stainless steel frets. Tends to make a carbon fiber tone more on par with a high quality wood guitar. Iíve been playing the six string for a week before deciding to do the same on the 12. Looking good so far, time will tell if these are a keeper.

FYI, I have the bottom side of the 12 restring right now. Typically the GBE side does not vary a whole lot between MFGís in tone as most of the strings do not have a wrap wire component to them. I started with the side that matters most. I can give more details once Iím done.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-06-2019, 10:33 AM
Earl49 Earl49 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Idaho
Posts: 6,777
Default

My X20-12 currently has D'Addario EJ-38's (47-10) on it right now. I took off the factory strings (EJ-37, 54-12) immediately to put a fresh set on X20-12 and my Taylor twelve string, for direct comparison. Those are done now, and will be replaced by Elixir's - I have a set of Polyweb strings sitting here. I'm not a fan of changing twelve strings.....

That original EJ-37 set was tuned E-e from the factory, but is intended (I think) to be tuned down to C# or D. Those strings were HEAVY at standard pitch, and a handful to play for even cowboy chords. The X20 did not flinch with 335 pounds of tension originally, down to 165 pounds when removing the octave strings (leaving essentially a light gauge six string 54-12 set at 165 pounds) or going back to the EJ-38 set (250 pounds). There was no need to change the truss rod for any configuration.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-06-2019, 10:41 AM
Kupuna50's Avatar
Kupuna50 Kupuna50 is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,019
Default Emerald

Quote:
Originally Posted by ac View Post
Which Emerald? X7? X20?

Maybe different strings apply for each. (?)

The newly acquired Emerald is an X-10

Thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-06-2019, 11:09 AM
kramster's Avatar
kramster kramster is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Phoenix, Az
Posts: 4,833
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kupuna50 View Post
The newly acquired Emerald is an X-10

Thanks!
What!?! No photos??!!??
__________________
YUP....
Emerald: X-20, Center hole X-10 (Maple) and X-7 (redwood), Amicus, Paduak X7,X10, & X30, Spalted Chen Chen X 10
CA: Early OX and Cargo
Blackbird: Savoy
RainSong: CH-OM, CH-WS
Journey: OF660
McPherson: Touring(Honeycomb and gold), Sable
Some wood things by Epi, Harmony, Takamine, Good Time, PRS, Gypsy Music, keyboards, wind controllers.. etc
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-06-2019, 12:56 PM
EvanB EvanB is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 2,520
Default

I'm seeing photos. It's a beautiful guitar.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-06-2019, 01:17 PM
kramster's Avatar
kramster kramster is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Phoenix, Az
Posts: 4,833
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EvanB View Post
I'm seeing photos. It's a beautiful guitar.
'
Me too...the good ole center hole..think I have a couple
__________________
YUP....
Emerald: X-20, Center hole X-10 (Maple) and X-7 (redwood), Amicus, Paduak X7,X10, & X30, Spalted Chen Chen X 10
CA: Early OX and Cargo
Blackbird: Savoy
RainSong: CH-OM, CH-WS
Journey: OF660
McPherson: Touring(Honeycomb and gold), Sable
Some wood things by Epi, Harmony, Takamine, Good Time, PRS, Gypsy Music, keyboards, wind controllers.. etc
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-09-2019, 01:00 AM
AcouStickistNS AcouStickistNS is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 164
Default Elixirs

What got me interested in Elixers was a recent video of bassist John Paul Jones endorsing the Elixer nickel plated nanowebs after having used Rotosounds most of his career. After playing the Elixer nano PBís on both necks of my Chimaera, Iím pretty stoked. No string noise, great tone, and the playability on the twelve string neck really makes these a keeper.

I immediately went and bought what JPJ is using on his bass, and wow, Iíve never used bass guitar strings that heavy that were so easy to play on my bass. Some serious solid low end coming out of those strings.

So I have two happy instruments sporting Elixers. Also noticed they are a WL Gore company. I use many of their products for mountainbiking.
__________________
Reply With Quote
Reply

  The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > Carbon Fiber

Thread Tools



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, The Acoustic Guitar Forum
vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=