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Old 02-17-2019, 01:51 PM
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Default Is this a fake vintage Martin being auctioned on eBay?

The internal stamp would be consistent with a pre- 1867( if it were not in ink- which i think it is) but the rosette looks more like an 1890’s herringbone. The seller says there is no Martin stamp on the headstock. I’m no expert, but I’m thinking this one isn’t the real thing. Anyone with more knowledge care to offer an opinion?
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Old 02-17-2019, 02:11 PM
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Looks consistent with the description of 2-21, bone rosette and appropriate woods and squared slots. In very nice shape also, one crack.
I wouldn't hesitate to bid if I was looking and could pick up..one owner guitar.
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Old 02-17-2019, 02:12 PM
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Nothing about that guitar looks fake to me.

You also have to ask yourself, why would someone fake a fairly inexpensive Martin 2-21. If you were buying that Brazilian Rosewood, it would be north of $800 and those original Jerome tuners are about the same if not more. Add in the ebony fingerboard and bridge, spruce top and Spanish Cedar neck and bar frets and you're looking at over $2500 in materials before you even begin making the thing.
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Old 02-17-2019, 02:26 PM
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The seller has noted it's a 2-21 model. This is a sold, same model at Artisan and they look very close, fwiw.

https://artisanguitars.com/vintage-l...-case-id-11687
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Old 02-17-2019, 02:29 PM
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Thanks for your replies.
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Old 02-17-2019, 02:37 PM
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I wonder how much weight should be placed on the internal stamp. The one pictured supposedly stopped being used in 1867. From what I could find the 2-21 was first issued in 1869 and had a 5 ring rosette.
Also, the stamp appears as if areas have “dispersed” into the wood as though it was inked and not heat applied.
I agree that if the tuners are authentic and the back BRW then it doesn’t make sense.
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